dude are you serious.... tryin to get these rave's clean... nearly impossible, tried carb and choke cleaner, brakleen, and some royal purple degreaser what the heck do you clean these things with, that is a lil quicker..2 hrs still workin on the first one using the soak and scrub method....3 more to go, i'll be here for another case and a half at this rate?:reddevil: