Jetskigoodies
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The only sealant needed is around the 3 tubes that go into the hull. That is it nothing else is needed, and I see you got your answer about the c clip. I was at the movies and just got home.
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The only sealant needed is around the 3 tubes that go into the hull. That is it nothing else is needed, and I see you got your answer about the c clip. I was at the movies and just got home.
Jetskigoodies
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Today we worked on 1 of the other 97 spx's we have. We went throught the carbs, they had different jets due to all the mods that were on it. We went back to stock.
I removed the skat trak impeller from the pump. For anyone wondering how to take one out or just needing to know how to get to the wear ring, here is how.
Take the pump off and then remove the nozzle and the cone.
Drain all the oil/gear lube
This picture has the impeller already out but you can see the shaft well here.
Put the shaft end into a vise.
Now you will need a impeller removal tool. You can find them for $10 on ebay
Insert it into the splines on the impeller.
Use a breaker bar with the correct socket. Just turn it counter clockwise and it will come off.
This pump had a anti rattle kit too. It is just a spring with a plastic peice to hold pressure on the shaft.
Oh yeah both the pump and impeller are for sale too.
The pump is in great shape and the wear ring is also in great shape.
I removed the skat trak impeller from the pump. For anyone wondering how to take one out or just needing to know how to get to the wear ring, here is how.
Take the pump off and then remove the nozzle and the cone.
Drain all the oil/gear lube
This picture has the impeller already out but you can see the shaft well here.
Put the shaft end into a vise.
Now you will need a impeller removal tool. You can find them for $10 on ebay
Insert it into the splines on the impeller.
Use a breaker bar with the correct socket. Just turn it counter clockwise and it will come off.
This pump had a anti rattle kit too. It is just a spring with a plastic peice to hold pressure on the shaft.
Oh yeah both the pump and impeller are for sale too.
The pump is in great shape and the wear ring is also in great shape.
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Jetskigoodies
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We have a couple people coming to look at the 97 spx and the 99 spx That we have for sale on cl. So we stenciled a seadoo logo on the handle bar pad of the 97 spx. We still had a few stencils left from [MENTION=16022]Dr Honda[/MENTION]. We also wrapped another hump seat too for a 97 spx, I think we are going to hold onto at least one of the hump seats though. We have 5 of them right now but if we sell the 97 and 99 we will be down to 3.
They will buy those skis if they know what's good for them. I can't believe how many hump seats you guys have been able to latch on to.
I gotta hit you on the "right size socket" cause I see signs on yours of a mistake I've made. That Solas tool is great but I started it's life using a 24mm socket or the closest standard size I could find. It worked but started rounding off. My socket set went from 22 to 24mm. I went to the auto parts store and found a 23mm....fits perfect!
I change the impellers just like that but with an old drive shaft with a pipe wrench on it with a cheater on that. Even the stubborn ones see it my way.
OK back to these fine skis. I can't imagine a potential buyer showing up and being disappointed.
I gotta hit you on the "right size socket" cause I see signs on yours of a mistake I've made. That Solas tool is great but I started it's life using a 24mm socket or the closest standard size I could find. It worked but started rounding off. My socket set went from 22 to 24mm. I went to the auto parts store and found a 23mm....fits perfect!
I change the impellers just like that but with an old drive shaft with a pipe wrench on it with a cheater on that. Even the stubborn ones see it my way.
OK back to these fine skis. I can't imagine a potential buyer showing up and being disappointed.
Jetskigoodies
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Mkuiper ended up buying both 97spx's from us for $2800, we wanted $1800 for the one and $1500 for the one we took all the mods off of. We usually wont drop the price that much but the one with all the mods was pretty much profit since we sold all the am parts and made alot off of those and we never got a chance to test ride that one.
Spx 1 had 150 compression in each cylinder, it was pretty clean and had a hump seat on it,
Spx 2 has 148 and 150 compression, we did not do much to this one as it ran well when we got it.
Looks like our compression gauge works well because he brought his own and got the same readings.
Apparently when they took them out the 2nd one filled with 3 inches of water. The bailer lines were not attached, and in the water it would only idle, if you hit the throttle it dies. It dies even if you ease into it. Sounds like an air leak to me but without being there it is hard to diagnose it. We know the compression is good so I bet a carb rebuild will fix the issue.
Spx 1 had 150 compression in each cylinder, it was pretty clean and had a hump seat on it,
Spx 2 has 148 and 150 compression, we did not do much to this one as it ran well when we got it.
Looks like our compression gauge works well because he brought his own and got the same readings.
Apparently when they took them out the 2nd one filled with 3 inches of water. The bailer lines were not attached, and in the water it would only idle, if you hit the throttle it dies. It dies even if you ease into it. Sounds like an air leak to me but without being there it is hard to diagnose it. We know the compression is good so I bet a carb rebuild will fix the issue.
Jetskigoodies
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Pretty rough picture but them leaving.
Jetskigoodies
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Here are some pictures of the 97 that had the am parts.
Rj wrapped the seat with a carbon fiber vinyl, we put a handlebar pad mod on it. We put a single gauge hood that was already painted on it. The vts gauge was not working, the po hacked into the wire harness and Rj replaced it for them after they asked.
The reason we had that one $300 cheaper than the other was due to us not touching the motor and us not having as many hours into it or $$$ into it.
I think they got a great deal, it is funny that they hit us with the exact bottom dollar offer that RJ and I discussed with each other. We looked at it as us getting $1600 for the 1st spx and $1200 for the other one.
Some pictures of the 2nd spx(am parts ski) along the way. I never posted pics of the work being done to this one.
Rj wrapped the seat with a carbon fiber vinyl, we put a handlebar pad mod on it. We put a single gauge hood that was already painted on it. The vts gauge was not working, the po hacked into the wire harness and Rj replaced it for them after they asked.
The reason we had that one $300 cheaper than the other was due to us not touching the motor and us not having as many hours into it or $$$ into it.
I think they got a great deal, it is funny that they hit us with the exact bottom dollar offer that RJ and I discussed with each other. We looked at it as us getting $1600 for the 1st spx and $1200 for the other one.
Some pictures of the 2nd spx(am parts ski) along the way. I never posted pics of the work being done to this one.
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Funny how we can be real cheapos. Haha. Turns out second am one needs some carb rebuild. One of the lines on the carb didn't have a clamp on it so we put one on. Also we reset the carb base gaskets. After that it seemed to rev up a little easier. Put it in the water and would need to fiddle with the choke and throttle to get the revs up but once past 3rd throttle it'd run like an absolute champ and pull like a devil. Scared me because thought might be running lean so we pulled it off the water.
The first one must've had a rag lying under the engine. Was riding and it was super slow to launch (might also rebuild these carbs still need to water test after removal of rag. The rag was stuck and wrapped around the pro grease fitting. So took it off and cleaned bottom of hull from all the rag bits being torn. Hopefully the bottom end hesitation goes away from the reduced drag. Also cleaned out all siphon lines on this one with some g9 and compressed air just to be safe as they were dirty. The fuel gauge in the hood was vibrating and turning so we took hood apart and made our own gaskets, re assembled and now it's tight. Found a line on carb that goes carb to engine block without a clamp so put a zip tie around it for now.maybe that'll help hesitation as well. Overall the skis are nice. We hope a simple carb rebuild on the seconds ski is all that's needed and that the "crisp" feeling for the first one comes back after removing that rag otherwise carb rebuild for him too. Plan for new impeller for first as well. Any recommendations for launching for air and rough water (Lake Michigan trips)?
All for now. But must say JSG was helpful to try and find out what was wrong on the second ski. He called while at work even. Great guy, thanks for the pretty skis.
-Matt
The first one must've had a rag lying under the engine. Was riding and it was super slow to launch (might also rebuild these carbs still need to water test after removal of rag. The rag was stuck and wrapped around the pro grease fitting. So took it off and cleaned bottom of hull from all the rag bits being torn. Hopefully the bottom end hesitation goes away from the reduced drag. Also cleaned out all siphon lines on this one with some g9 and compressed air just to be safe as they were dirty. The fuel gauge in the hood was vibrating and turning so we took hood apart and made our own gaskets, re assembled and now it's tight. Found a line on carb that goes carb to engine block without a clamp so put a zip tie around it for now.maybe that'll help hesitation as well. Overall the skis are nice. We hope a simple carb rebuild on the seconds ski is all that's needed and that the "crisp" feeling for the first one comes back after removing that rag otherwise carb rebuild for him too. Plan for new impeller for first as well. Any recommendations for launching for air and rough water (Lake Michigan trips)?
All for now. But must say JSG was helpful to try and find out what was wrong on the second ski. He called while at work even. Great guy, thanks for the pretty skis.
-Matt
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Watching... I want to try a X4 787 one day.
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Jetskigoodies
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I thought so lol. I didnt have any blanks/delete buttons left. I can not seem to find them anywhere either. I think osd may have them. They sell a kit to add another button to that style info center. This way you can add a button for a bilge or anything aftermarket and you do not have to drill any holes.
Jetskigoodies
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Last week on Wednesday we bought a 96 xp, it had 150 compression in each cylinder but weak spark, the rear ebox screw that holds the grounds in was stripped and barely held in.
On Thursday we bought a 96 gtx with a blown motor, upon inspection the rear cylinder blew, the rear carb filter was completely filled with grean goo from the grey fuel lines. At one point it had a sbt swap, with a brand new oem oil pump. The fuel delivery was never fixed so the sbt motor leaned out.
This gtx was very clean. It has a new seadoo cover and a new skat trak slim line impeller. We ended up taking the good motor from the xp and putting it in the gtx.
Here is the impeller, we had to take that out of the pump it was in. The pump was broken, well one of the nuts where the nozzle bolts too was snapped.
We pulled off the oem mat and there was an adheisive. We ended up scraping it off.
The inside was cleaned
We replaced all the fuel lines, put new oil in the pump we put on, and washed it.
Sunday we took her to the lake
Started up fine ran good for 5 minutes then it would only get to 3500 rpms and she acted like it was hitting the rev limiter. Rj shut if off and turned it back on and she ran fine for a few minutes then same symptoms. We pulled the red wire on the rectifier and she ran great for the rest of the day.
Hit 7000 rpms and was quite responsive, for as big as it is she seemed pretty fast and it cut through the chop nicely.
Rj was doing 360's on it and it ripped the reverse bucket off.
So all that is left for this is installing the new hydroturf we ordered from pwc muscle, buffing it, new rectifier and reverse gate.
The info gauge has the burnt lcd and the seat has a small tear.
On Thursday we bought a 96 gtx with a blown motor, upon inspection the rear cylinder blew, the rear carb filter was completely filled with grean goo from the grey fuel lines. At one point it had a sbt swap, with a brand new oem oil pump. The fuel delivery was never fixed so the sbt motor leaned out.
This gtx was very clean. It has a new seadoo cover and a new skat trak slim line impeller. We ended up taking the good motor from the xp and putting it in the gtx.
Here is the impeller, we had to take that out of the pump it was in. The pump was broken, well one of the nuts where the nozzle bolts too was snapped.
We pulled off the oem mat and there was an adheisive. We ended up scraping it off.
The inside was cleaned
We replaced all the fuel lines, put new oil in the pump we put on, and washed it.
Sunday we took her to the lake
Started up fine ran good for 5 minutes then it would only get to 3500 rpms and she acted like it was hitting the rev limiter. Rj shut if off and turned it back on and she ran fine for a few minutes then same symptoms. We pulled the red wire on the rectifier and she ran great for the rest of the day.
Hit 7000 rpms and was quite responsive, for as big as it is she seemed pretty fast and it cut through the chop nicely.
Rj was doing 360's on it and it ripped the reverse bucket off.
So all that is left for this is installing the new hydroturf we ordered from pwc muscle, buffing it, new rectifier and reverse gate.
The info gauge has the burnt lcd and the seat has a small tear.
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Jetskigoodies
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Well that was the good news for the weekend, on the way home from testing the gtx we had an issue with the trailer. We were driving home and getting off the expressway when smoke started billowing from the passenger side trailer tire. We pulled over and saw that the 4 bolts on front of the torsion bar bracket were gone causing the trailer to lower onto the tire. The tire rubbed through the fender, then through the glecoat on my 96 xp. Well we disconnected the trailer and went 1 mile to the shop to grab a jack, hammers and some hardware. When we get back to the motel parking lot where we left them it started to rain. By rain I mean it was pooring and we had 65 mile a hour winds. The rain stung as it hit us and we were completely soaked. I laid on the center bunk an succesfully bent the bracket back into place and got 1 bolt in to get us down the road. But the fender is toast and here is the xp damage. I am going to have to do some glass and gelcoat repair.
The black mark on the bottom portion is actually on the fiberglass I do not think there is any gelcoat left there.
The black mark on the bottom portion is actually on the fiberglass I do not think there is any gelcoat left there.
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Jetskigoodies
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Just picked up another 99 spx this week. It was actually in the craigsllist ad thread
It has 150 compression in each cylinder. We changed out the fuel lines and cleaned the carbs. The rear carb filter was full of green goo.
We buffed it out.
It was pretty rough.
New reg numbers.
It has 150 compression in each cylinder. We changed out the fuel lines and cleaned the carbs. The rear carb filter was full of green goo.
We buffed it out.
It was pretty rough.
New reg numbers.
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Jetskigoodies
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The air deflector was really faded, so I used some heavy cut cleaner. I did it by hand so I would not burn the plastic.
The storage bin is the nicest one I have seen
The key is also in great shape
We are headed to the lake today to test it out.
All that will be left is to wrap the seat and order new mats.
The storage bin is the nicest one I have seen
The key is also in great shape
We are headed to the lake today to test it out.
All that will be left is to wrap the seat and order new mats.
CReynoldsMIZ
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JSG. Looks great. Call or email mike at pwc graphics. He made me almost a replica hood decal. I can't even tell the difference at all. [MENTION=59978]kicker[/MENTION] got one also. He can vouch for it. Cheap as well
Jetskigoodies
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I will have to do that. That is all that is missing. The rest of the graphics cleaned up well. There is a few knicks on the graphics but overall they are really nice. I think she should run great. I will find out shortly
Glad to see this thing fell in the right hands. Hopefully you are enjoying a successful test run right now.
That thing looks Soooo good after you worked it over. I've got to learn that side of it now, it's just costing me money to not buff them or whatever your doing there. How long did that take you?
That thing looks Soooo good after you worked it over. I've got to learn that side of it now, it's just costing me money to not buff them or whatever your doing there. How long did that take you?
Jetskigoodies
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Nope, I paid $20 for them locally. However the guy gave me a quick lesson. I did set up my plotter but have not used it yet. My pc crashed and I need to buy a new one. The software I have for it is only good for 1 pc. I need to find a cheap vinyl supplier too.
Jetskigoodies
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The test run went great. The throttle was nice and crisp, had great power. It was loading up between starts so it will need new needles and seats. We also need to bump up the idle.
The gauges are not working, but the trim works.
That last spx took about 2hrs but I only did the top half. Plus that was only with fine cut.
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