Faint gas smell when removing cover and more

[Meme N Pop]

I got my new Poppy cover in yesterday. (YEAH) I put it on the ski yesterday afternoon just to see how well it fits. I went out this morning to work on jumping the oil level sensor wires because PO removed the oil system so the light has been on since I got it.
When I removed the Poppy cover there was a faint smell of gas. I haven't ever smelled gas when I removed the seats or anything.

Could this be from the pressure relief valve or more likely a leak I just haven't noticed?

Also I noticed while I was in there (ok I wasn't quite in there, I'm not that small) that it seems like the solenoid valve that I think opens and closes the raves has been bypassed. There are no lines hooked up to it and it appears that someone put a tee there instead and just hooked all the lines together. What will this cause/harm. Oh and how many rave valves are there supposed to be? It appears I have three.

Next the air intake silencer looks like someone has drilled holes in the top of it or are the holes supposed to be there? I didn't think so because there is no even shape, pattern or distance between the holes. They look to be about 1/4 inch.

Also we now have 100 hours on this ski and the maintenance light is on and I need a recommendation on who to take it to in Florida. I am around Clewiston but I am willing to drive at least a couple of hours to find a great mechanic or even knowledgeable individual who can help me out.

Please Help! We are so new its scary!

 

[LouDoo]

My skis have always had a faint gas smell.

 

[Meme N Pop]

Thanks for the reply Lou. That eases my mind a little.

 

[Meme N Pop]

Can anybody Answer my questions?

I'm not just asking stupid questions to see how many people answer. I'm really trying to learn some things.

Today I even fixed the fuel gauge and replaced the gray gas lines. :hurray:

Anybody got any ideas on the solenoid valve being bypassed or the holes in the air intake silencer or a suggestion on someone to do the 100 hour maintenance?

Anybody? :willy_nilly:

 

[ThreeD]

I don't think the holes will necessarily hurt it. Careful not to get water in there though. If there are pretty big holes and a lot of em, grab a new top to your silencer. I'd rather not get water in there

 

[ThreeD]

On my model, there are no solenoids that open the raves. The raves on my model open and close due to pressure from the exhaust. Not sure if that is the way your model works too. Also just by the parts diagram, it looks like you have 2 Raves (which is standard for 2 cylinders). Take a look at any parts page for your model to see what should go where. Or buy the premium membership and get access to the shop manuel for your model.

 

[Meme N Pop]

ThreeD, Thanks for the reply. I took the silencer off and there was some water in there so I will get a new one. However I wonder why they are there. It runs good right now and I am afraid the PO did this for a reason. I don't want to have any probs because I closed up the holes

Also two of the rave valves are on the motor. The third is on the tuned pipe? I think. Are the water regulator for the cooling system and the rave valves the same part?

These look the same and the one on the tuned pipe says RAVE on the top. but the ones on the motor don't. (this is the black plastic part with the little red centers, right?)

I do have the owners manual and shop manual already. The shop manual is where I read about the solenoid opening the Raves. But mine is bypassed so I don't know if the solenoid quit working or what?

Wish I had someone to go through this thing with me cuz I don't want to make any costly mistakes.

 

[ThreeD]

Could be. Like i said, I don't know much about your model and I am somewhat of a novice with the doo's. I'm going from 2 stroke bikes to this, so there is a bit of a learning curve considering now you have the water and prop element to consider. In all honestly, I've never heard or seen anyone with 3 rave valves on their doo, but they very well could have made a model with those specs. I guess if you had 3 raves you probably would need a solenoid for 'em

If the shop manuel says you have 3 of 'em then you do. and If the manuel says that there is a solenoid for 'em, then get it hooked up correctly. If you still have trouble after that, then we can narrow it down to something else. Oh, and since you're there, give those rave valves a good cleaning.

Bump
Hoping someone with at least the same year doo as yours can help out!

 

[gsxgtxman]

There're two on the motor, and one on the water box! The one on the water box is the water regulator!'

 

[seadooya]

Meme....with the cover on, and smell'n fuel, atleast you know, ur cover is air tight, and that the vent check valve is work'n

ThreeD, you gotta 787cc motor, where Meme, if were talk'n about his LRV, has a 951cc

The raves (on the motor), are completely different. The 787 doesnt use a solenoid(located on starboard side, under the seat), as where, the 951's do.

To "bypass", the solenoid, if you remove the rave housing, turn it upside down, you'll see 2-little holes, that are connected with a "concave" bridge. You'll have to drill the hole, that doesnt line up with the hole, thats on the rave slot. The pressure from the case/cylinder, then will travel into closed hole, thru the "bridge", and into the new drilled hole, that then, will open the rave/move rave up. You'll have to though, cap off the fitting, thats down on the case, where the line from there to solenoid, comes from, along with the 2-fittings, off the rave housing...or cap line at solenoid.

 

[Meme N Pop]

Everybody Thanks for your help.

Seadooya, Should I assume that whoever bypassed the solenoid did that stuff or do I need to actually pull the raves off and see if it has been done?

i've only had this ski about 2 weeks and its my first one so im just trying to learn about it. But it does seem to run well and I don't want to screw that part up.

where Meme, if were talk'n about his LRV,

By the way I'm a Her :hurray:

 

[seadooya]

my apologies....just got goin typing....

Remove the 2-allen bolts, securing the rave housing, and gently lift up. Not a big deal, to undo/remove. Then look under the housing, see if one of the 2-little holes, are actually drilled thru.

 

[ThreeD]

koo

Meme....with the cover on, and smell'n fuel, atleast you know, ur cover is air tight, and that the vent check valve is work'n

ThreeD, you gotta 787cc motor, where Meme, if were talk'n about his LRV, has a 951cc

The raves (on the motor), are completely different. The 787 doesnt use a solenoid(located on starboard side, under the seat), as where, the 951's do.

To "bypass", the solenoid, if you remove the rave housing, turn it upside down, you'll see 2-little holes, that are connected with a "concave" bridge. You'll have to drill the hole, that doesnt line up with the hole, thats on the rave slot. The pressure from the case/cylinder, then will travel into closed hole, thru the "bridge", and into the new drilled hole, that then, will open the rave/move rave up. You'll have to though, cap off the fitting, thats down on the case, where the line from there to solenoid, comes from, along with the 2-fittings, off the rave housing...or cap line at solenoid.

Werd. I knew someone on here would know what he's got going on on his particular ski/engine. I was just giving him info to compare to. Does the rave in the water box make a big difference? Now i'm just curious

 

[seadooya]

Werd. I knew someone on here would know what he's got going on on his particular ski/engine. I was just giving him info to compare to. Does the rave in the water box make a big difference? Now i'm just curious

FOE SHO......inna sense, it creates the pipe, to act like a turbo. With idle/above idle rpms, its allowing water to flow to the pipe. With the increase in rpms, it'll then, direct flow, to the muffler, to keep the "band" in the sweet spot. If at all faulty(regulator), it wont re-direct the flow, thus, flooding the pipe, which then, in a 951 motor, you'll get the dreaded 6k rpm at wot, on 787, around 5-5500rpm at WOT.

 

[ThreeD]

Interesting. So what happens to the water that it just allowed in the muffler when you change speed/rpms? I.E. how does the water flow back out of the muffler? I just wanna learn

 

[Meme N Pop]

Remove the 2-allen bolts, securing the rave housing, and gently lift up. Not a big deal, to undo/remove. Then look under the housing, see if one of the 2-little holes, are actually drilled thru.

I removed the allen bolts and tried to take the rave out but it's won't come out gently or otherwise.

it only lifts about 1/4 inch then it is like it's stuck. Can it turn in there where its not lined up with the hole?

I tried to rotate it a bit but its like only the outside part turns.

 

[seadooya]

I removed the allen bolts and tried to take the rave out but it's won't come out gently or otherwise.

it only lifts about 1/4 inch then it is like it's stuck. Can it turn in there where its not lined up with the hole?

I tried to rotate it a bit but its like only the outside part turns.

nope, its just stuck, from carbon build-up. Need to keep prying.

 

[Meme N Pop]

Thanks a bunch, had to get a bigger prybar LOL
Those things were disgusting. Im still working on cleaning them.
Will it hurt to spray carb cleaner in the holes? they are about as bad and hard to get to.

 

[Meme N Pop]

Now that I have the raves clean where they can move, do you think I could hook the solenoid back up.
I'm not sure they have ever been cleaned in the whole ten years. Is there a way to test the solenoid to see if it is working?

neither one of the little holes was drilled through

 

[Meme N Pop]

(bump)
seadooya any thoughts?

Now that I have the raves clean where they can move, do you think I could hook the solenoid back up.
I'm not sure they have ever been cleaned in the whole ten years. Is there a way to test the solenoid to see if it is working?

neither one of the little holes was drilled through

 

[seadooya]

scrape the inner walls of the rave housing, you'll have build-up in there, too, with a screwdriver. Hook up the solenoid, and go try ur out. If its as bad as you describe, you'll know a difference.

Yea, use carb cleaner for the rave housing andthe holes, you see.