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Cheap gas... Death of E85?

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I'm the other way. I top off when I get below 1/2 tank. I am not good enough or have enough experience to accurately predict fuel consumption. I also top off oil when I fill up.


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DavesNotHereMan said:
I'm the other way. I top off when I get below 1/2 tank. I am not good enough or have enough experience to accurately predict fuel consumption. I also top off oil when I fill up.


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This is a great way to NEVER have to buy a fuel pump. Ive talked to many mechanics and when its hot out...you are killing your fuel pump via heat. The gas keeps things cool.

I just had mine go out for the 2nd time in my truck after 150k. In the days before I was allowing it to idle for 15-20mins at a time doing BF shopping.

BTW MN is 1.95 as of today.
 
Minnetonka4me said:
This is a great way to NEVER have to buy a fuel pump. Ive talked to many mechanics and when its hot out...you are killing your fuel pump via heat. The gas keeps things cool.

I just had mine go out for the 2nd time in my truck after 150k. In the days before I was allowing it to idle for 15-20mins at a time doing BF shopping.

BTW MN is 1.95 as of today.
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Tonka:
Learned something new again! I did it cuz I don't trust the gauges ( although mine seem pretty accurate so far).

When I was a much younger man, I flew small private aircraft - Cessna's and Pipers. We used to measure the fuel in the wing tank with a calibrated stick because the gauges just were not reliable. Running out in the middle of the lake is no where near as bad as running out at 5000 ft, but you see where I'm coming from.


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Yeah I think theres a few factors making petrol so steep in Aus, I think too because everything's more expensive anyway, but tax's would probably be a big one
 
I fill it when the light comes on lol. No issues so far.

Auto trader has a Model S in my price range! Hopefully just 6 more months.
 
In the case of fuel injections it's true keeping fuel in the tank can help keep the fuel pump cooler. I think filling under 1/3 tank is a good idea.

One problem with keeping the tank too full is the pressure leak sensor and vapor purge valves can get liquid in them, causing them to malfunction. So it's not a good idea to overfill up into the fill pipe.
 
SabrToothSqrl said:
Hopefully just 6 more months.
No issues so far.
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You must be 3 months pregnant? :)

Give it about 250k miles, you might need a new pump by then. My Buick has just over 200k on it and on a drive up to Md. last year the pump was making a terrible racket for over an hour, fuel tank was full. On the way back it stopped making noise and has been quiet since, not sure I can trust it on trips anymore, might change it soon. Pretty sure I'll have to yank the tank out, not looking forward to it.
 
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Minnetonka4me said:
This is a great way to NEVER have to buy a fuel pump. Ive talked to many mechanics and when its hot out...you are killing your fuel pump via heat. The gas keeps things cool.

I just had mine go out for the 2nd time in my truck after 150k. In the days before I was allowing it to idle for 15-20mins at a time doing BF shopping.

BTW MN is 1.95 as of today.
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Having installed literally hundreds of in tank pumps here is my 2 cents.
There are many brands of pumps. Some will only last a year if your lucky. Not going to name any brands but you get what you pay for, oem is usually good choice. Extending the fuel filter replacement [if equiped] beyond 15k or 1 year will cost down the road. Running the tank low on fuel causes the pump to work harder and run hotter. The fuel actually flows through the pump windings cooling the motor. It won't cause a fire because there ins't enough oxygen. The unused fuel [on many vehicles] is returned to the tank from the hot engine. Less fuel in the tank the hotter it can get, straining the pump further.
 
Boss, how bout running shatty 5 year old jetski gas in your silverado? Lol there's another one of my stupid decisions. Runs great after having some new cats welded in... Lol

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Years ago I used to prepare cars for crushing. You know, remove the battery, tires oil and gas. Being "thrifty" or green today, the gas went in my 454 Elcamino. Well......... one batch of fuel was a little stale but what the heck it will be ok. Drove it a few miles. Kind of ran rough. Shut if off at work. Few hours later tried to start it. Not going to happen. All the exhaust valves were stuck in the heads. Ever tried to change a set of air pump, A/C, big block heads in a 74 Elcamino, no fun. Never did that again.
 
LOL over the years Ive run premix, old, stale....whatever through my truck without issue. Yeah the check engine light would come on every once and a while...but it never stayed on, never ran like crap...nothing.

Couple years ago I go to pour in a jug of gas...VP jug with a clear hose...into the truck. Flip it up and its dark piss color and super cloudy. Cloudy=water if you didnt know. I did. LOL Anyways...few seconds go by and its still cloudy and Im like shiiiiit ill cut it off in 5 sec if it doesnt clear. well it didnt. About 2 gallons into maybe 12 gallons...didnt think anything of it.

Next day it was cold...mid 20s. went to start it and it was misfiring and wouldnt idle. Forced it over to the gas station and topped it off with premium. Started and ran, felt sluggish. I did some errands then all of a sudden it seemed to run a bit better, then I noticed a distinct new rattle. Crawled under there and it sounded like a broken cat.

I drove it for about a week like this when it started misfiring like crazy under load. Went over to my buddies and plugged in his diagnostic scanner and only one bank of cylinders were misfiring. We read about 10 different forums reading all sorts of issues....and the 5.3 motors had some issues with heads. Im freaking out. Then we start talking about the rattle and we had read a guy that had clogged cats...so I called my pipe guy and he said for an old truck some cheap aftermarket ones welded in would suffice.

$400 bucks later I put the petal to the floor out of the pipe guys parking lot and it was a whole new truck.

Moral of the story...dont pour water in your gas tank. LOL Id like to say I dont still do it...well I only dump in the stuff that looks and smells good now. Anything questionable goes to the disposal center.
 
I always just ran the premixed part out ski fuel in my lawn mower.. I would mix a little 93 in it.. Never had problems.
 
Minnetonka4me said:
Couple years ago I go to pour in a jug of gas...VP jug with a clear hose...into the truck. Flip it up and its dark piss color and super cloudy. Cloudy=water if you didnt know. I did. LOL Anyways...few seconds go by and its still cloudy and Im like shiiiiit ill cut it off in 5 sec if it doesnt clear. well it didnt. About 2 gallons into maybe 12 gallons...didnt think anything of it.
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I'm pretty sure you knew that wouldn't fly, LOL,

I put free but questionable fuel in my Buick DD as well, some of the old stuff we drain from boat tanks runs fine in my car and still passes the sniff test. For a Mercruiser not good, knocking and pinging ain't cool, but fine for my old '95 buick that loafs along going down the road at 1500RPM.

If it stinks much at all or looks discolored, it goes to the hazmat disposal. I guess anyone can take their stale fuel to the local pick and pull or maybe use it to light the brush pile.
 
LOL as I said...not my brightest moment. LOLOL

I had run alot of junk before that though with no issues.
 
Water in fuel isn't the problem it used to be. Tanks are sealed better and the ethanol does absorb the H2O in the bottom. Long time ago I owned a service station and towing service. During the night it got way above freezing and melted some of the snow on the ground. The in ground tank fill lid was lower than grade and didn't seal well. We usually kept it clear but no one was there so in came the water. Anyway the next morning we filled up all the tow trucks, and many customers cars. About a 1/2 hour later the phone started to ring. We filled everything with water. Couldn't even tow the cars back with our trucks. What a mess.
 
Truth is, it's not the solution we are expected to believe, just as WMDs were never found in Iraq.

This message was brought to you by those interested in deceiving you so they may stuff their pockets with taxpayer wealth.
 
What drive me nuts is the US tests emissions by the gallon of gasoline burned, not the overall distance traveled.
The way I understand it, if regulations were lightened on emissions, automakers in the USA could produce a vehicle that gets far better gas mileage, BUT yes, it would pollute more per gallon.


However, take that vehicle on a 100 mile trip & it would pollute far less overall as it burns less fuel.
Eveyone would win except the government collecting less tax dollars........

Why can't a car that gets 40+ MPG pollute a little more than my chevy silverado getting 16mpg?
 
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