Jet Pump

[SurfBeat]

I am planning on leaving the Jet Skis at home and taking my 93 GTX's for a run in a few weeks, however, before I can do that I have to re-install the jet pump because I let that job lie idle at the end of last season.

To accomplish that task, while perusing my Clymers S/D Manual I noticed that the Clymer Boyz state that I need to apply Loctite Primer N and Loctite Gasket Eliminator 515 onto the Impeller Housing surface where it mates with the Venturi.

Does anyone know of a substitute for those/these two products? The only PWC shop that is left in the area does not carry any Loctite.

Again, I need a substitute for:

a Loctite Primer N;

b. Loctite Gasket Eliminator 515

Thank you,

Joey G

 

[LouDoo]

Are you referring to where the steering nozzle attaches to the pump? Personally I use nothing, the later models call for anaerobic sealant, like locktite 518.

Lou

 

[SurfBeat]

No, I am referring to the Venturi, where it attaches to the Impeller Housing.

That said, we may be on the same page because the steering nozzle is attached to the Venturi by a nut and bolt. Had I not disassembled those two parts when I removed the pump, then maybe this question would not be so confusing.

I guess I made my project more difficult by detaching the Steering Nozzle from the Venturi? Had I not done so, then you boyz would have quickly figured out what this dummy was trying to ask!!!!!

Maybe I should stick to practicing law and stop trying to me a mechanic. Or maybe, I should go back to skool' to learn how to write a question clearly so others can understand it clearly. Thank you for your prompt response.

 

[Dr Honda]

So....

where the pump meets the hull? If so... just put in a neoprene gasket. It should be $5 at a seadoo dealer, and makes it MUCH easier to get apart later... if needed.

 

[SurfBeat]

So....where the pump meets the hull? If so... just put in a neoprene gasket.

Again, I failed to make myself clear and I am wasting the wise men time. I apologize. It is clear the United States Army wasted its money sending me to kollege!!!

Let me try to proffer the question right this time.

Thanks Doc, although I like your idea for the gasket, beats Permatex's Right Stuff which I used a few years ago based upon a recommendation be a local S/D Do-It-Your-Selfer, my question lies where the Impeller Housing butts up to the Venturi. Clymer's S/D Manual states that Loctite Primer N and Loctite Gasket Eliminator 515 are the recommended sealants, however, I can't find them locally. So, any recommended alternatives.

Thanks again, Doc.

 

[LouDoo]

Is it part no. 42, sealant for the thru-hull fittings?

http://fiche.seadoowarehouse.com/se...=236&b=18&c=0&d=-PROPULSION-SYSTEM---EXTERNAL

Any good silicone seal will work, I use Locktite Silicone Sealant, from Lowes, you only need a dab around the thru-fittings.

Lou

 

[SurfBeat]

Big Lou, NO, it is part # 7 and 17.

What I must do is apply a sealant on the Venturi's (#17) surface where it mates to the Impeller Housing (#7).

I should have posted the parts diagram before making the post. You iz' a wise "old man" Big Lou. lol (I was in Nam, so I am no youngster)

 

[LouDoo]

That's what I thought you were talking about in your first post. I use nothing, the manual calls for anaerobic sealant (gasket maker).

Lou

 

[SurfBeat]

That's what I thought you were talking about in your first post. I use nothing, the manual calls for anaerobic sealant (gasket maker).Lou

Yeah Grunt, that is exactly what you stated. You can't expect an old MP to read carefully. Thanks for the time you gave me. I appreciated it. Hopefully I can get this project done tomorrow and crank up the 93's.

http://www.seadooforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=17860&d=1364790037&thumb=1&stc=1

 

[mikidymac]

If you have a NAPA auto in the area the same product that seadoo calls for as Loctite 515 is sold at NAPA as Permatex 518 and is labeled flange sealant. The part that SurfBeat is refering to is the connection between the pump and the reducing cone that the steering nozzle connects to. From the factory it has the red sealer on it.

 

[SurfBeat]

. . . just put in a neoprene gasket. It should be $5 at a seadoo dealer, and makes it MUCH easier to get apart later... if needed.

Doc: I looked at the micro-fiche for the 93 GTX (587 engine) and did not see a neoprene gasket, so, liking your idea and thinking it may be a new and improved retro-fit I called a few S/D dealers this morning and all said the 93 S/D GTX does not have the gasket, that silicone is used.

I took the time to read your article about recommending not to use silicone because of the hassle removing the hull that had silicone, so, knowing first hand that you are one of the wise man on the Forum, I had to ask, do you know where I can fetch one?

If not, if my 93 GTX was in your shop to re-install the jet pump, how would you mate the Impeller Housing to the hull?

Thanks.

 

[LouDoo]

Here's a link for the neoprene seal, probably the best bet is to get one from your local dealer. I don't think Tony will mind that I jumped in here.

http://www.parkeryamaha.com/seadooneoprenepumpseal293200024.aspx

If you want the part number try looking at a newer model ski, like a 96GTI.

Lou

 

[SurfBeat]

Thanks Lou. Parker, AZ is my summer hang out since I was a kid, but, Parker Yamaha charges an arm, a leg, and a nut to ship anything. I just called and they wanted $13 to ship an item that costs $6 and will fit in a fifty cent envelope.

At least your reply got me a part number and lo n behold this time when I called my local S/D dealer with the number they had two in stock.

So, on with the running shoes and shorts, the sun is out and I can get my six miles in plus get my part.

You be kool 1st Cav.

 

[SurfBeat]

I retrieved the neoprene gasket, however, as evidenced by the micro fiche schematic, the 93 GTX does not use a gasket but silicone instead.

That said, looking at the NG on Parker Yami's webs-site, it states the NG will fit on a 580cc, so, I have one question.

I was presuming that the gasket slid onto the lip of the Housing Impeller, thus clearly indicating it is a good replacement for silicone, however, it is to small to fit. However, it the NG mates with the "Wear Ring," then vola, my question is answered: mate it with the wear ring and install the pump.

So Grasshoppers, I need one last bit of info to wrap up this task.

TY

 

[SurfBeat]

I answered my own question by looking at the micro-fiche for the 94 GTX. Sure as heck, it is there. I guess by 1994, S/D must have figured out that the NG worked better than silicone.

Now, one last question, what type of silicone do I use to mate the Impeller Housing to the Hull. Is the Permatex's "Right Stuff." Or, does the NG do away with using any silicone?

 

[LouDoo]

You will only need the silicone seal at the hull penetrations, no. 15 and no. 2.

http://fiche.seadoowarehouse.com/se...=236&b=18&c=0&d=-PROPULSION-SYSTEM---EXTERNAL

Lou

 

[SurfBeat]

Thanks Lou. Maybe by this time next year I will accomplish the task.

 

[SurfBeat]

Thanks Lou, maybe by this time next year I will accomplish the task.