pacifictor
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I have a 2006 Seadoo RXT that met some rocks. I'm fixing it this winter as a porject and need to know if the top and bottom halves of the hulll can be separated to facilitate the repair?
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Hi pacifictor,
Welcome to the forum.
I would think the the 2 halves come apart but remember that some cables lines that go to parts in the bottom half are attached to the upper half to hold them in place. So you MAY have a tangled mess to work around.
Also remember that the hull is gelcoat not just painted....so get a gelcoat repair kit.
Welcome to the forum.
I would think the the 2 halves come apart but remember that some cables lines that go to parts in the bottom half are attached to the upper half to hold them in place. So you MAY have a tangled mess to work around.
Also remember that the hull is gelcoat not just painted....so get a gelcoat repair kit.
I don't know about the 4-tek's but the 2 stroke ski's the halves are epoxied together, short of cutting the hull or the deck there is no way to get them apart, I suspect 4-tek's are manufactured the same way. I've actually been to the SeaDoo plant in Cowansville, Quebec, Canada.
If you need to turn the ski upside down you'll need to drain the fluids first.
Lou
If you need to turn the ski upside down you'll need to drain the fluids first.
Lou
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bigJake
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Seadoobuddy, I got a few scratches on my hull I want to repair (stupid me, I was gonna use watercolors til I saw your post). What procedure do you find works the best and which gelcoat repair kit have you had the best success with. Thanks!
Jake,
Make sure you follow your bro Lou's Clymer manual. You need the updated 1988 edition "How to paint a Seadoo"
Just be caefull, some paints won't stick once in the water
BTW - I thought the hull would come apart, my boat does so why not a PWC?
pacifictor - We are just joshing one another.....
Google "Seadoo hull repair" and get any info you may need
Make sure you follow your bro Lou's Clymer manual. You need the updated 1988 edition "How to paint a Seadoo"
Just be caefull, some paints won't stick once in the water
BTW - I thought the hull would come apart, my boat does so why not a PWC?
pacifictor - We are just joshing one another.....
Google "Seadoo hull repair" and get any info you may need
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pacifictor
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Thanks for the replies.
I was hoping someone out there has experiencing splitting a hull. I've drilled out the rivets and removed the rub rails. I've gone down the seam with a knife in the verticle joint (aided by a two pound hammer). The halves are surely bonded as there is no hint yet of separation.
If all else fails...can a hull be purchased? Used or new?
I was hoping someone out there has experiencing splitting a hull. I've drilled out the rivets and removed the rub rails. I've gone down the seam with a knife in the verticle joint (aided by a two pound hammer). The halves are surely bonded as there is no hint yet of separation.
If all else fails...can a hull be purchased? Used or new?
Here's a video you might want to check out, it's about 12 years old, but the basic assembly is pretty much the same for later models.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoXnl2BIa3k
Lou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoXnl2BIa3k
Lou
Michael211_2000
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Most boat hulls have a (fairly thick) layer of fiberglass sealing and holding the deck half to the hull half... after removing the rubrail (and any rivets/screws), boat repair shops use a saw to cut thru the inner layer to seperate the halves, then they just apply a new layer of fiberglass to the joint when they put them back together. On boats, the halves have to be seperated mainly for transom replacements (my jetboat will need this done at some point, there are a few soft spots starting to develop in it's transom it costs around $1K I've been told to split it and replace the wood in there).
Anything can be taken apart if you are willing to cut on it enough! But in the case of boats/PWC's, it isn't something you can do with just a screwdriver and wrenches.
I fail to understand though why this RXT's hull needs to be split just to fix the gelcoat... if you have alot of bottom work to do, just turn it over (drain the fluids, build a padded stand of some sort needed to support it's weight upside down!). If there's damage to the fiberglass (like cracks or breaks) going thru the hull to the inside, then remove the engine... it's not that hard. There's no reason you should ever have to split a SeaDoo PWC hull apart to my knowledge.
I occassionally see good RXT hulls with blown engines for sale on Ebay, or parted-out ones without an engine. Not often, but they do come up from time to time you could transplant your power system to another hull if you Watch Ebay for awhile till a hull you like comes up for auction.
Regards.
- Michael
Anything can be taken apart if you are willing to cut on it enough! But in the case of boats/PWC's, it isn't something you can do with just a screwdriver and wrenches.
I fail to understand though why this RXT's hull needs to be split just to fix the gelcoat... if you have alot of bottom work to do, just turn it over (drain the fluids, build a padded stand of some sort needed to support it's weight upside down!). If there's damage to the fiberglass (like cracks or breaks) going thru the hull to the inside, then remove the engine... it's not that hard. There's no reason you should ever have to split a SeaDoo PWC hull apart to my knowledge.
I occassionally see good RXT hulls with blown engines for sale on Ebay, or parted-out ones without an engine. Not often, but they do come up from time to time you could transplant your power system to another hull if you Watch Ebay for awhile till a hull you like comes up for auction.
Regards.
- Michael
pacifictor
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Michael
Thanks for your thoughts. I am going to start the repair by removing the engine, fuel tank and styrofoam. However, if I can't make the repair at that point I'll likely have to cut it in half. The damage is severe. A strip 8-12 inches tall running nearly the length of the PWC. A storm broke the tether, seperated the PWC from the dock after which it lapped up against the rocks on shore for hours before my neighbor retrieved it.
Thanks for your thoughts. I am going to start the repair by removing the engine, fuel tank and styrofoam. However, if I can't make the repair at that point I'll likely have to cut it in half. The damage is severe. A strip 8-12 inches tall running nearly the length of the PWC. A storm broke the tether, seperated the PWC from the dock after which it lapped up against the rocks on shore for hours before my neighbor retrieved it.
Michael211_2000
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IC... does the strip go thru the hull into the inside of the hull? If it's just the gelcoat that's damaged there should be no need to do anything inside of the hull to fix that. In other words, if it's cosmetic damage to the gelcoat you shouldn't need to get inside the hull... but if there's a crack in the fiberglass structure, then you may need to get to the inside of the hull depending on how bad the crack is. Alot of fiberglass damage can be repaired from the outside of the hull only.
I wouldn't take seperating one of these hulls lightly... you might even wanna trailer it to a few fiberglass repair shops and get some estimates what they think it'd take to make the repairs (even if you still choose to do it yourself, you'll at least get some idea from the estimates what you need to actually do and not do). Before you put too much work into it yourself, I really think you might learn some stuff just by taking it to get some estimates from a pro repair shop or two or three. They'll tell you the things they'll have to do to fix it right and how much it'll cost, then you can decide if you want to do it yourself or save up some money and let them do the repairs.
Good luck, take and post pics and keep us appraised how it goes!
- Michael
I wouldn't take seperating one of these hulls lightly... you might even wanna trailer it to a few fiberglass repair shops and get some estimates what they think it'd take to make the repairs (even if you still choose to do it yourself, you'll at least get some idea from the estimates what you need to actually do and not do). Before you put too much work into it yourself, I really think you might learn some stuff just by taking it to get some estimates from a pro repair shop or two or three. They'll tell you the things they'll have to do to fix it right and how much it'll cost, then you can decide if you want to do it yourself or save up some money and let them do the repairs.
Good luck, take and post pics and keep us appraised how it goes!
- Michael
Michael211_2000
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ps. Once you take the engine out, you can pretty much climb right into the hull and lay down to take a nap if you want to... it's pretty spacious inside these hulls compared to the older 2-stroke models. You should probably get an assembly manual off Ebay or a premium membership to this site (for it's online manuals)... there are some tricks you may never figure out on your own otherwise, like what parts need to come off the engine while it's still inside the hull so that you can actually pull the engine out of the hull and how the driveshaft is held in and such. Study the exploded micro-fiche diagrams online, they're VERY helpful in understanding where things are around the engine (it's hard to see many parts of the engine when it's inside the hull, alot of stuff you end up having to take apart by feel alone fun fun fun!).
Most importantly though, if you don't need to get to the inside of the damaged areas then don't take the engine out! It's a pretty good weekend job pulling that engine when you've never done it before. You can do it it just won't be any fun at all.
- Michael
Most importantly though, if you don't need to get to the inside of the damaged areas then don't take the engine out! It's a pretty good weekend job pulling that engine when you've never done it before. You can do it it just won't be any fun at all.
- Michael
If your PWC is that badly damaged it may very well be totaled out. I would check with my insurance company it might not be too late to file a claim. I would be concerned about the structural integrity of the hull after the repairs are made, these things get a lot more abuse than a boat. You're not only talking about the repairs to the hull but also where you're going to have to make the repair re-attaching the hull to the deck.
If you can't file a claim with your insurance company you might want to consider parting the ski out. Parts on a late model ski are very valuable because there is not a lot of them out there the motor alone could be worth more than the whole PWC, plus all the other parts.
Here's another option you might want to consider, I think I PM'd you on this, I personally have never seen a complete new hull for sale but here's one that would work and at a very reasonable price.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-Seadoo..._Watercraft_Parts&vxp=mtr&hash=item35b767c278
Lou
If you can't file a claim with your insurance company you might want to consider parting the ski out. Parts on a late model ski are very valuable because there is not a lot of them out there the motor alone could be worth more than the whole PWC, plus all the other parts.
Here's another option you might want to consider, I think I PM'd you on this, I personally have never seen a complete new hull for sale but here's one that would work and at a very reasonable price.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-Seadoo..._Watercraft_Parts&vxp=mtr&hash=item35b767c278
Lou
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Michael211_2000
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I agree with Lou that I've never seen a *new* SeaDoo PWC Hull only for sale... just used ones that had been parted out. I don't think you can buy just the hull new, and it'd likely be cost-prohibitive if you could. But if you watch Ebay and Craigslist for a few months you may very well come across a good deal on a ~2006 RXT hull with a bad engine for sale which you could put your engine into and sell the extra parts. I've seen a couple on Craigslist over the past year that had been sunk the engines were locked up and the owner just wanted to get rid of them. It's winter time now so you're really not in a rush here, might pay to investigate all options (professional repair estimates AND keep an eye out for a good used hull on Craigslist and Ebay... never know what might turn up... or just part yours out, probably make enough money to buy another good used one!).
A pic or two of the damage you have there would help us to advise you. Lots of very knowledgeable people on here willing to help.
Regards!
- Michael
A pic or two of the damage you have there would help us to advise you. Lots of very knowledgeable people on here willing to help.
Regards!
- Michael
pacifictor
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Thanks again for the replies. I have taken the PWC to a boat shop that specializes in hull repair. The only way it makes sense for a pro to fix it is if I hollow it out so they can access both sides of the damage to fix it. The damage is not cosmetic. The damaged area is pulverised to smitherines. Yes... check the oil by reaching in from the outside.
I find it odd that Seadoo doesnt sell replacement hulls. I've called several dealers and get a the same answer.
I'm pulling the engine today. If your interested you can check back in a couple days and I'll add a pic of the damage.
I find it odd that Seadoo doesnt sell replacement hulls. I've called several dealers and get a the same answer.
I'm pulling the engine today. If your interested you can check back in a couple days and I'll add a pic of the damage.
Michael211_2000
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Ouch! That's terrible!
So you're going to pull the mechanics out yourself, then let a pro shop do the hull repair I presume? Did they quote you a price?
I imagine if BRP sold replacement hulls they'd be very cost prohibitive... it's just much more economical to repair fiberglass than to replace the entire hull. A good repair shop can make it like it never even happened, you won't be able to tell where the damaged area was.
Good luck, let us know how she turns out and how much it sets you back ok?
- Michael
So you're going to pull the mechanics out yourself, then let a pro shop do the hull repair I presume? Did they quote you a price?
I imagine if BRP sold replacement hulls they'd be very cost prohibitive... it's just much more economical to repair fiberglass than to replace the entire hull. A good repair shop can make it like it never even happened, you won't be able to tell where the damaged area was.
Good luck, let us know how she turns out and how much it sets you back ok?
- Michael
No doubt a winter project...
Good luck to you...
Good luck to you...
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