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fordarmyof1

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ok ive rebuilt the 951 gsxl motor. ive rebuilt both carbs. and due to the slow runaway (it doesnt quickly runaway, just slowly but she gets up to 4900 and i choke her down or shut her off) the consensus is an air leak, my question is whats the best way to locate said air leak? anyone got any tried and true tricks? thanks
 
Not sure if leak down results are for your application but losing air is bad











Pressure Testing Two Stroke Engines


What is pressure testing?

Pressure testing is a test performed on a two stroke engine to ensure that the engine has no air leaks. An air leak in a two stroke engine can cause a lean condition in your engines air-fuel mixture. This in turn can result in serious engine damage. For example: Piston seizure, detonation, etc.

Note: There is absolutely no way to ensure that your engine doesn’t have an air leak without performing the following test.

To pressure test your engine you will need a few special items. See below for instructions on building your own pressure test device. To test the engine: cylinder, head, reed cage, intake manifold and spark plug must all be installed and properly torqued. Exhaust pipe and carb must not be installed.

Here is a pic of a typical Mikuni Pressure Test Kit than can be found at many places on the iternet.
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A steel or aluminum plate must be bolted onto the exhaust side of the cylinder using a piece of rubber as a gasket.
A round fitting with pressure gage attached should be clamped into the intake manifold on the cylinder.
With equipment in place, use a hand pump to fill the sealed engine with 6-8 lbs of air pressure.
Once 6 lbs of pressure is pumped into the engine. Set a timer for 6 minutes.
Engine must hold a full 6 lbs of pressure for 6 minutes without any loss.
A tight motor should be able to hold this setting for more than 10 minutes without losing any air.
Rule of Thumb The normal bleed-down pressure loss is 1 psi per minute.


If gauge shows a loss of pressure, squirt all gasket surfaces with a water based soapy solution (Windex, 409, etc.) If there is a leak at any surface you will see soap bubbles. Re-torque any areas that leak.

If you cannot locate the leak by looking externally, consult a qualified two stroke mechanic.

If after 6 minutes the gauge shows no loss in pressure, remove testing equipment and continue assembly of machine.

Building your own pressure testing device. All parts can be found at any good hardware store. total cost should be around $15.
 
after the engine was rebuilt it ran great. but it was running to rich and started bogging down. we put in some used needles that were laying around. but then i went ahead and rebuilt the carbs with all new parts. but when i put it back together is when i started to have the runaway issues.
 
Did you change the premix after breakin?
Did you check pop off after changing N/S?

Minn or Dr should chime in again with this new info.
 
I doubt you have an airleak. Runaway on the 951 is very common and slow runaway is also very common when it gets to higher rpms. Very slight adjustments in the carbs can effect runaway and I wouldn't judge anything unless you have it on the water. Just pull the choke like you have been doing, not a concern and get it on the water to see what it really runs like.
 
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