1993 Sea Doo SP

[Mr Mopar]

I'm Having Issues With My 1993 SEADOO SP :facepalm:

It's A 2 Stroke 587 Rotax Bombardier Motor

It Has ...... A NEW COIL , NEW BATTERY , 2 NEW NGK PLUGS

~~~~~~~~~~ NO SPARK ~~~~~~~~~~ PLEASE HELP !!

Thank You , ALL HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED !!

THIS SEADOO IS A NEW ADVENTURE FOR ME & I AM DUMB FOUNDED ON THIS RIGHT NOW !!

 

[Coastiejoe]

You are at the right place,,,

I'm just not the right person... It slows down here in the winter months. We have some super knowledgeable individuals when it comes to the 2 strokes. Give them time to check in. If no one touches base in the near future I will send a PM to one of them on your behalf.

Welcome aboard....

 

[Mr Mopar]

Thank You COASTIEJOE

You are at the right place,,,

I'm just not the right person... It slows down here in the winter months. We have some super knowledgeable individuals when it comes to the 2 strokes. Give them time to check in. If no one touches base in the near future I will send a PM to one of them on your behalf.

Welcome aboard....

THANK YOU Coastie Joe ,

HELP IS GREATLY NEEDED !! :hurray:

 

[Dr Honda]

Have you checked the charging coil? Your ignition is a "MAG" style ignition... and doesn't charge via the battery.

Also... make sure the wire coming from your MPEM, that connects to the ignition coil doesn't have a ground on it. That's how the MPEM controls the ignition, and if the MPEM went bad... it could be keeping it from sparking.

 

[Minnetonka4me]

Yup the Dr. is in the right track. The FIRST thing you should have done is come here. You bought a bunch of stuff for nothing.


Now....the first thing, and the most likely, is the MPEM. Go into the grey box and find the black/red wire (only one with a plastic cover thing) coming off the mpem and unhook it. That disables the rev limiter and the kill switches. Now try it. If it starts, rehook the wire up to kill it. You now know the MPEM is likely bad. From there you can take the kill switch/teather out of the mix by testing, but most likely its the MPEM.

If it doesnt have spark still, make sure the blk/red is still unhooked then you can take the white wire off the coil and put a test light to that wire and ground. Crank it. If it flashes, your coil is still bad. If it doesnt flash, the Stator is bad.

I do have some MPEMs and stators stock if you need one.

 

[Mr Mopar]

THANK YOU ............... Dr. Honda & Minnetonka4me For You GREAT FAST RESPONSE To My Problem.

I JUST PICKED UP THE SEADOO SP TODAY (Production Date 11/92) Title Says Its A 1993 587cc White Motor.

It Has A Brand New Coil & Battery , BUT I Noticed That The Plug Wires Were Just Shoved In The Boot .................. SHOULDN'T There Be The Center Wire Coming Out & Connected To The End To Make Contact?

I'm Going To Start There Tomorrow ( SUNDAY )

This Jet Ski Needs Some Cosmetic Parts , AIR FILTER TOP BOLTS , CENTER FRONT BUMPER , COMPLETE REAR BUMPER TOP SECTION , SEAT , HOOD STRAPS , DECALS ( BOTH SIDES ) & FRONT HOOD , HAND GRIPS

also ... DOE THIS YEAR/MODEL Come With A GRAB BAR ?

THANK YOU Again For All The Information , If The Coil Wire Fix Doesn't Work , I WILL FOLLOW YOUR INSTRUCTIONS & Follow Up Afterwards ....

Sincerely Paul ( Mr Mopar )

 

[LouDoo]

The spark plug boots screw on, to make sure you have good contact, un-screw the spark plug boots, cut off 1/4" of the spark plug cable and screw the boots back on, use a small cable tie to secure.

I have a couple of suggestions:

1. Download a service manual for your ski, you can get one from this site if you join as a premium member, or you can just google for one.

2. Before you start doing a lot of work on this ski get a compression reading, it will give you a general idea of the condition of the engine. Remove the spark plug boots and ground them, cold engine, throttle open, ideal is 150psi, over 135 is O.K., 120 time for a rebuild.

Lou

 

[Dr Honda]

Yep to the above.

As far as the grab handle question.... I don't think it did. The "Sp" has always been the base model, so it's generally stripped. But with that said... you can get the handle from the same style Xp, or Si (ebay) and bolt it on. Any of the square nose hull will work. (89 to about 94) Or... you can put a strap on the seat. (that's normally enough)

With a little love... the old hulls can look good, and they are fun to ride. (just not the fastest thing on the water)



Here's my 91 Si after a little love...

 

[Minnetonka4me]

I have most of what you are looking for.

The only things on the list impossible to find are the hood straps and OEM graphics. I have kind of found some straps that can be modified to work.

Dont worry about any of that list though until you get it running.

 

[Mr Mopar]

Dr. Honda ,

THAT IS SWEET LOOKING !!


Not Looking For FASTEST Dr. Honda , EYE CATCHING MAYBE LoL

My 1994 SP Holds It Own Pretty Good !!

 

[Mr Mopar]

Hello Lou Doo,

Compression Seems Good , ALSO , When You Screw On The Boots DOES It Get Tight?

My Boots Just Keep Spinning On The Wire !!

 

[- BiRkS_]

They should become snug. If you keep wrenching on them, you may strip the wire "threads" or break the wire. Should be about 3 turns.

 

[Mr Mopar]

Hey Minnetonka4me,

Not Worried About OEM Graphics , Might Do Custom Stuff.

Been Having Bad Weather Here - Even Snow Today - I Hope To Get Back On This By The Weekend
( BURRR 28 DEGREES HERE NOW )

I Will Try To Post Some Pictures Of The Sea-Doo's !!

 

[Mr Mopar]

Hello BiRkS,

Thanks For The Response

I Just Picked This 1993 Sea Doo Up Last Saturday , The PREVIOUS Owner Must Of Broke Them , Because He Changed The Coil !!

DEMMIT , OK Who Has Spark Plug Boots !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mr Mopar]

Who Has Some Spark Plug Boots Available !!!

I Need 2 Please !!

 

[LouDoo]

#35, part no. 27800237, you can probably find the at an auto parts store, small engine shop, motorcycle shop, or order them here:

http://fiche.seadoowarehouse.com/se...=seadoopwc&a=290&b=7&c=0&d=-ELECTRICAL-SYSTEM

I have a couple but they're not for sale.

Lou

Also NGK TB05EMA a prety common part.

https://www.google.com/search?q=tb0...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

 

[Mr Mopar]

Hi Minnetonka4me , What Was The MPEM Part # ?

 

[Minnetonka4me]

Part number really doesnt matter...a 580 mpem from 92-94 will work... 92-94sp, 93-94SPi, 92-93 GTX.

I also have plug boots.

 

[Mr Mopar]

Hey Minnetonka4me,

I Have The Boots , How Much For The MPEM ? New OR Used ?

I'm Hoping That's The Problem :facepalm:

 

[Mr Mopar]

Dr Honda ,
Here Are My Jet Ski's

( 1st Picture ) 1994 SP Sea Doo - RUNNING GREAT !!

( 2nd Picture ) 1993 SP Sea Doo - STILL NOT RUNNING !!

 

[Minnetonka4me]

Have you done the black/red wire test I said to do? That will tell you without a doubt the MPEM is bad.

 

[Mr Mopar]

How Much On A Stator?

 

[LouDoo]

Ya know it's hard to help a guy who won't take the advice we offer. What makes you think it's the stator?

Lou

 

[Coastiejoe]

Mr Mopar.

Remember the first reply where I said it was the right place but others with more experience would jump in?

Well, the two that have offered advice has years of knowledge. Follow their advice as it will get to the solution.

 

[Mr Mopar]

LouDoo , THANK YOU For The INFORMATION , Found The Boots !!
BTW , was just asking how much for a stator that's all !!

Again 20 degree weather here , rain snow coming again TUE-WED Hoping To Continue The Wire Check This WEEKEND ( WEATHER PERMITTING ) ........... That MINNETONKA4ME To Me To Do So I Can UPDATE You All !!

Thanks Again !!