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It even comes with upper cylinder lubricants.........whatever that is. give it a shot, if it doesn't kick good with that, then I am thinking a weak spark issue.
 
Doesn't kick...I bought a 10 pack of plugs...When they got wet, I sprayed them with cleaner..hit them with air. Compresser and.let them dry in rotation. Could they all be fouled?

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When the water level was such that it was ingested, did it possibly get into any other area shaft would affect the spark? Ie the grey electrical box?

I suck water into my 951 all the time lol. Usually can clear it while still on the water.
 
Are u getting a good strong spark?!?!????? You haven't said yet, Fuel+Spark+compression = Combustion... You are missing one of the three or it would be running


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Sounds like she is about to crank but never does...tried premix in cylinders...carb. tried starting fluid as well

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Im going with post 32, ...........battery. Gotta have near perfect volts for that thing to spark.
 
ARE U GETTING A GOOD STRONG BLUE SPARK? All of this d*mn guesswork is pointless if we don't know if u have a good spark


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And.load tested..battery is strong

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Hold throttle wide open and crank ?

Try fogging oil as a starting fluid. (mine seems to like it when cold)

Daam the starting fluid should have caught ! That stuff is crazy.

Stick another set of plugs in the caps and lay them on the engine while cranking with the old plugs still in the engine so you can see if its firing under load!

Then we can say you for sure have spark under load.

Check the gap! its supposed to be something like a millimeter or less isn't it guys ?
 
That only says that it has the 12-13 volts, I am curious as to what volts it has while you hit the start button, the actual draw on the battery, that is the key.
 
Lay them on top.of.the head?

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yes just put them anywhere that they are both touching the same piece of metal.

Remember that in this machine that the spark jumps between the wires and NOT from the wire to the engine.

So you need both plugs to be grounded to the same piece of metal ( the head) so that you get a complete circuit and see the spark.


battery will say 13 V and charger says its good.
However once you put it under load................................ 9V and no spark :P
Mine tricks me all the time like that !!
Surface charge is 13 v, Actual usefull charge isn't enough.
 
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Mekanix...left old.plugs in...put a new one. In boot...touched head and.tried to crank...I see no spark. Was this correct way?

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Screw plugs into cylinder head, then ground one of the plug caps to the ground post, then put a fresh plug in the other empty plug cap, hold the spark plug electrode against a bolt on the cylinder head and hit the start button, you should see a bright blue spark from the visible plug.... Then switch plug caps and test again....


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Hold throttle wide open and crank ?

Try fogging oil as a starting fluid. (mine seems to like it when cold)

Daam the starting fluid should have caught ! That stuff is crazy.

Stick another set of plugs in the caps and lay them on the engine while cranking with the old plugs still in the engine so you can see if its firing under load!

Then we can say you for sure have spark under load.

Check the gap! its supposed to be something like a millimeter or less isn't it guys ?

.020-.024" or 0.5-0.6mm They should be close enough from the box to fire up and run
 
Sounds like you did this the correct way and you have no spark.... No spark =No go... Check a few different plugs this way to make sure it wasn't just a fouled plug, if you never see a spark it's time to look elsewhere.... No wonder it would never fire... Gotta check simple things first


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I know but that means 10 plugs plus 2 I robbed out the xp are fouled

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Screw plugs into cylinder head, then ground one of the plug caps to the ground post, then put a fresh plug in the other empty plug cap, hold the spark plug electrode against a bolt on the cylinder head and hit the start button, you should see a bright blue spark from the visible plug.... Then switch plug caps and test again....


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Nope wont work like that :P
The ground post isn't grounded. Its just a floating piece of metal not attached to any ground.
The spark jumps between the two wires and Not to ground or the engine block,


Leave both old plugs in the engine

Put good plugs in the caps

Place the plugs on the engine head while they are in the caps and make sure each of the spark plug metal body's are touching a bare piece of metal ( like the head of one of the bolts) and crank away
 
Ummmm..... U can test one lead at a time... Maybe u misunderstood what I was saying, hard to hold two plugs at a time and hit the start button


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Actually here's another trick.

IF you have no spark.
take the plugs out of the engine and that will take the load off of the starter.

Crank it and and check for spark again while there is hardly any load on the starter and the battery voltage is a bit higher then when the plugs were in.


(make sure you don't have the spark plugs near the mist coming out of the plug holes)
 
Ummmm..... U can test one lead at a time... Maybe u misunderstood what I was saying, hard to hold two plugs at a time and hit the start button


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Re-reading.. Might have mis-read, This is fast paced stuff :P


With the one wire on the ground post and holding the other one on the engine with a plug I don't think it will fire because that would almost be like having an open circuit. (unless I'm missing something? ) Its not like,,, well any other ignition system that normally jumps to ground.


You could however put one plug cap on one of the plugs and then stick a spare in the other cap and lay it on the engine. That way your only holding one and the other one is sort of attached to ground.


That means the spark energy will go through one wire , through the plug and then jump one gap, travel through the head and then to the other plug and jump that gap and then go down the other wire.
 
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Well either way.never got a spark. Hard to believe because it sounded like it was about to crank. Guess tmrw I'll get another 10 pack of.plugs and 18 pack of.beer...and.the saga continues

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