Good source for paint codes?

[68ragtop]

I am looking to have some elastomeric paint mixed up to repaint the hood & steering covers on the 96 GSX.
I was hoping there might be some information out there with the colors used on this ski? In the 96 service manual they do not cover the colors on the GSX, & in the GSX supplementary manual, there is no mention of paints used at all. The 97 manual has the info, but of course 97 GSX was a different color scheme.

The color is the deep purple, that many guys are calling blue. Would really like to keep the ski looking original, if possible.

Here is the page out of the 96 manual.

Any adeas where to find more paint code info for this 96 color?

 

[68ragtop]

I did find a code of M-517 called indigo blue, Guessing that might be it?

 

[racerxxx]

Have you tried the heat gun trick on the hood or how about buffing it like Jetskigoodies does? Not sure if his method would work great for the blue, the wax/compound might make it look white. I saw a post where you were dying it? I'd try the heat gun if it were mine before dying it.

[video=youtube_share;Pw0cWfTZ_dA]http://youtu.be/Pw0cWfTZ_dA[/video]

 

[68ragtop]

Have you tried the heat gun trick on the hood or how about buffing it like Jetskigoodies does? Not sure if his method would work great for the blue, the wax/compound might make it look white. I saw a post where you were dying it? I'd try the heat gun if it were mine before dying it.

Haven't tried anything else yet. I shouldn't have used the term "dying" sorry about that.....old habbit. I have used SEM products in the past on auto restorations & they make a great elastomeric paint. Perfect amount of gloss too. But no formula for Indego Blue..

The heat gun trick seems a bit Dicey. I would like to try that on a "notso" good friends ski first

 

[racerxxx]

I could be dicey, what's gonna happen if you fisheye or get a hanger, bug lands in it, dust falls on it?? Same consequence. I know that won't happen, sh!t happens and I've been there more than once. At least with the heat gun you could paint over those mistakes, right?

If you keep a watchful eye on the plastic and the heat guy you'll quickly see when to move on. The biggest thing is to not concentrate in one area too long. SEM does make some nice stuff. Can you get paint matched from the under side? My local autobody shop I use can match "close" that way and they also have a new system that they can put it into a rattle can so you don't need to mix up and clean your guns. Never tried their new system. Another way to do it is to use Black Magic tire shine. It will make grey plastics on your car like black again, but it will fade them if you don't keep doing it. Just a thought.

 

[68ragtop]

I could be dicey, what's gonna happen if you fisheye or get a hanger, bug lands in it, dust falls on it?? Same consequence. I know that won't happen, sh!t happens and I've been there more than once. At least with the heat gun you could paint over those mistakes, right?

Actually auto paint is something I do often & have less fear in
I have part of my shop that converts into a spray booth. My LPS tried to use their paint reader on the plastic, but it couldn't get a reading. However, the guru of the place is on vacation this week. He has mixed a lot of stuff to match for me with great results. However, I usually have a paint code to start with...

Not to get way off topic, but here's a recent builder I sprayed in my shop.

 

[racerxxx]

Right on, that looks great. I'll dig thru some stuff I have stored on my PC. You do a lot of Rebuildables? Good friend of mine did a few explorers, pays to work at the Ford dealer, he gets a good deal on the OEM sheet metal.

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[anthonygrato]

Hey 68 the truck looks great. I think someone stole the rims and tires tho.

 

[68ragtop]

Right on, that looks great. I'll dig thru some stuff I have stored on my PC. You do a lot of Rebuildables? Good friend of mine did a few explorers, pays to work at the Ford dealer, he gets a good deal on the OEM sheet metal.

I used to do a lot of them, but now days I just do one a year or so. This truck was a rolled 4-Runner. My wife drove it for a while & I sold it recently. I just finished a FX35 that she is currently driving. That one nearly broke the bank tho. Really hard to find used parts for. Ended up buying most of it at the Infiniti dealer. Wasn't too happy about that.

Hey 68 the truck looks great. I think someone stole the rims and tires tho.

Lol, Thanks! Looks nice sitting on the hubs, doesn't it. I think I just had a couple 2X4's under the ball joints to get it as low as I could. I think I have a picture of it finished. Really liked that color.

 

[racerxxx]

I did find a code of M-517 called indigo blue, Guessing that might be it?

IF that is correct here is both the BASF and PPG paint code: OEM #293500102
If anything you could check a paint chip now, or what I like to do is hole punch a paint chip and lay the page on the part and get a close eyeball for the stuff you just can't get a paint code for. I'd still do the heat gun first.

BASF R-M
RM-88029


PPG
59814

 

[Seadoobuddy]

I am looking to have some elastomeric paint mixed up to repaint the hood & steering covers on the 96 GSX.
I was hoping there might be some information out there with the colors used on this ski? In the 96 service manual they do not cover the colors on the GSX, & in the GSX supplementary manual, there is no mention of paints used at all. The 97 manual has the info, but of course 97 GSX was a different color scheme.
The color is the deep purple, that many guys are calling blue. Would really like to keep the ski looking original, if possible.
Here is the page out of the 96 manual.
Any adeas where to find more paint code info for this 96 color?

If you go to WWW.Colorrite.com they have paint match codes for almost every ski. I bought some for a yama and it was exact match.
1-800-358-1882 on the East coat and 800-736-7980 for the West coast people

 

[racerxxx]

If you go to WWW.Colorrite.com they have paint match codes for almost every ski. I bought some for a yama and it was exact match.
1-800-358-1882 on the East coat and 800-736-7980 for the West coast people

They have a whopping 9 colors for seadoo, but perhaps a phone call could net some better results

 

[68ragtop]

Well, I found that I can get the color, but my only options are a single stage urethane, or BC that I would need to clear over & use some flattening agent. Really not wanting to put that much material on & go through the process & materials it takes to put these products on plastic.

So, I decided to dabble with racerxxx's plastic heating idea. Everything in my mind said "don't do it"...... I figured It was going to distort the plastic or worse. I scrubbed as much oxidation off as I could & gave it a try. It actually worked pretty well, just took me some time to get confident with the process. Nothing warped & the color came back very rich. Only issue I see so far is there must be oils that tend to make small streaks in the plastic as it cools. Almost unnoticeable though. Seemed the magic temperature was right around 250 degrees. (using an IR thermometer)

 

[kicker]

that looks great 68, did you a buffer with a medium or heavy cut on that as well? I did the heat gun trick on my handle bar pad and it came out almost the same as your hood but I buffed it with a medium cut compound. Not sure how well it would work with the texture of the hood.
In regards to the paint (I now its too late now) this is what I found in one of my manuals.

PPG Industries Inc. sells paint and related products and these are not available through Bombardier Inc.
network. To find your nearest PPG dealer, dial one of the following numbers.

PPG paint for Sea-Doo watercraft is not available in spray can. For best result it must be applied by a
professional painter.

For fast touch up on metallic and gelcoat surfaces, refer to the appropriate Bombardier Sea-Doo Parts
Catalog to find the available products

NORTH AMERICA CANADA
Quebec
Phone : 1-800-363-2816

All Others Provinces
Phone : 1-905-855-5802
Communications are available in english and
french.

U.S.A Phone : (216) 572-6100
This phone number is also good for all countries.
Communications are available in english, french and spanish.

 

[68ragtop]

I just scrubbed it with a brush & cleaner. The oxidization wasn't real bad, so I didn't need to do much more than that. I also did the steering cover which was nearly white. of coarse that was bad, & by the time I got all that removed, there was no texture left, so while the color is blue again, its now smooth & somewhat shiny.

So now I just have to get the gauge cover resolved. Its faded to a baby blue, & matches nothing. however, its not oxidization, obviously a different type of plastic that is truly faded. I tried sanding it down, hoping to get back to the original color, but its too deep of a pigment change. This is one part that I will probably paint.

 

[kicker]

Did you try Maquires med or heavy cut? Mine looked somewhat the same (hard to really tell from a picture) and it came out nice. I used a product called G3, same idea as maquires.

 

[racerxxx]

Well, I found that I can get the color, but my only options are a single stage urethane, or BC that I would need to clear over & use some flattening agent. Really not wanting to put that much material on & go through the process & materials it takes to put these products on plastic.

So, I decided to dabble with racerxxx's plastic heating idea. Everything in my mind said "don't do it"...... I figured It was going to distort the plastic or worse. I scrubbed as much oxidation off as I could & gave it a try. It actually worked pretty well, just took me some time to get confident with the process. Nothing warped & the color came back very rich. Only issue I see so far is there must be oils that tend to make small streaks in the plastic as it cools. Almost unnoticeable though. Seemed the magic temperature was right around 250 degrees. (using an IR thermometer)

Ha, that looks awesome, I can't take credit for the process. I used the heat gun on that gauge cover too, that might not get glossy, I think Jetskigoodies buffs that plastic. Check my thread.

In the words of my father: Nice to see you finally took them out of your pants!:lols:

Meaning you manned up and tried it, it's either gonna work or not, ya got nothing to lose.

 

[68ragtop]

I think its something in the blue pigments that fade with this type of plastic. I first polished with strong cut, then tried sanding it with 400 grit, nothing..... then for giggles I actually cut an area down with 120 grit paper, thinking once I got back to color I would work it back, with 220, 400, 800, etc & buff it out. Even 120 wasn't getting it done. Realizing this, I knew I would destroy it & the lines before I would get down to the color.

 

[68ragtop]

I used the heat gun on that gauge cover too, that might not get glossy

What color was yours?

 

[68ragtop]

I got lucky & found a NOS indigo gauge cover listed on ebay. Very happy about that find.
Now, I won't need to paint anything.

 

[racerxxx]

I got lucky & found a NOS indigo gauge cover listed on ebay. Very happy about that find.
Now, I won't need to paint anything.

Nice, ya can't beat NOS! BTW to your above question that I obviously missed almost a month ago, it was yellow

 

[68ragtop]

BTW to your above question that I obviously missed almost a month ago, it was yellow

about time, I have been pacing back & forth at the computer waiting each day......

Now if I could just find a handle bar cover.......

 

[kicker]

I thought you did the handle bar cover with the heat gun as well? Or is it that you don't like that it is not textured anymore?

If you need one try Minnetonka, he has a couple of 96 GSX sitting there.

 

[68ragtop]

yes, that was it. By the time I had all the oxidization scrubbed off, it was flat with no grain.
The color is good now, but just doesn't look quite right. But, I am ok with it for now.

 

[racerxxx]

about time, I have been pacing back & forth at the computer waiting each day......

Now if I could just find a handle bar cover.......

:toetap05: Wiseguy

Now post some pics already.