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Convert HF trailer for seadoo.
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Spimothy Leary
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i'm not the kind of guy that trusts HF for stuff like this,,, but heck, it will probably work, especially on a small ski.
you'd need brackets for bunks of course, my personal opinion would be to buy a galvanized trailer locally, and fix it up for what I assume would be the same price, if not less.
heck, i've been trying to sell my spare single trailer for 2 months for $150 and i've had no luck ! lol
needs lights and bearings, but has a new winch, I had one offer for $100 and I told him if I could take the winch off we'd have a deal and he walked away.
but maybe trailers are super expensive up there, i'm in Florida, everybody and their brother has a trailer in the back yard.
you'd need brackets for bunks of course, my personal opinion would be to buy a galvanized trailer locally, and fix it up for what I assume would be the same price, if not less.
heck, i've been trying to sell my spare single trailer for 2 months for $150 and i've had no luck ! lol
needs lights and bearings, but has a new winch, I had one offer for $100 and I told him if I could take the winch off we'd have a deal and he walked away.
but maybe trailers are super expensive up there, i'm in Florida, everybody and their brother has a trailer in the back yard.
kicker
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A descent used single is gonna run $500 and you will still need at least one of the 3 wearing components, lights, tires or bearings. How much for your trailer shipped? :lol:
ocod
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Here it is tucked away when not in use
They have one too
http://www.harborfreight.com/1195-l...tility-trailer-with-12-inch-wheels-90154.html
They have one too
http://www.harborfreight.com/1195-l...tility-trailer-with-12-inch-wheels-90154.html
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Dr Honda
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Absolutely nothing wrong with the HF trailers. I had one like that (back in the day) set up for 2 stand-up skis, and a box. Worked great. BUT... check your local laws on how to get it registered. In PA... it's a PIA !!! Basically... you would have to build the trailer... take pictures of it on all sides... take it to a weigh station... take it to an enhanced inspection station... Then send in the pics with the origin cert, and receipts (showing you paid taxes on it) the weigh ticket, and the inspection cert to PenDOT. Then... wait for 2 weeks to 4 MONTHS to get the plate. (GAY)
Oh... and the best part is... you have to take it to these places, but since you don't have a plate for it yet... you can't just tow it !!!! So... yes... you have to put it on another trailer. (extra GAY)
In the 80's... in SoCal... it wasn't that bad. Build the trailer, and go to a ref station with the receipt. They issued a plate the same day.
I know Ohio and Michigan are easy too.
Oh... and the best part is... you have to take it to these places, but since you don't have a plate for it yet... you can't just tow it !!!! So... yes... you have to put it on another trailer. (extra GAY)
In the 80's... in SoCal... it wasn't that bad. Build the trailer, and go to a ref station with the receipt. They issued a plate the same day.
I know Ohio and Michigan are easy too.
kicker
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Does the HF trailer come with the spec sticker or some sort of serial number? Also does it come assembled or in a box and you have to put it together. In Ontario it is easy to register as home made, but it would be easier for me to bring across the border in boxes then towing it. If I tow it I will need to do a some paper work to get it across.
ocod
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Comes with Certificate of origin in the box
You have to assemble and buy nuts and bolts/tires/wood or bunker brackets
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YouCanDooIt
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I have the fold-able 4X8 for my quads too, and I have been happy with it. It pulls great behind my truck even at 70 mph+, and I have taken it on several 200-300 mile trips and never had any problems. The only thing I do not like is the cheap trailer coupler, the mechanism on mine did not last long, if I used mine more that would defiantly be something I would replace. The axle looks a little flimsy, but like I said it pulls great and it is rated for a decent amount of weight, so I can not complain. Also, when I bought my GTX I did not have a extra trailer at the time, so I used my HF trailer to bring it home about 150 miles. I just laid it over on it's side and used ratchet tie downs, and it actually surprised me how well it pulled. I believe the GTX is about 600 lbs. , so I think you would be fine using it for any 2 stroke skis.
Dr Honda
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It DOES NOT come with a title in the box. It comes with a "Manufactures Certificate of Origin" in the box. And NO... there aren't any real "Numbers" on it. And finally... no... they aren't built.
Once you build it... you need the MCO to get the title, and a vin plate issued.
That's why I was saying, in PA, it's a total pain to get it done.
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kicker
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Thanks for the info guys. For me, being in Ontario, as long as I can show a bill of sale at the border and it is not assembled i dont need to deal with any vehicle licensing to get it across. Registering in Ontario is easy for a homebuilt trailer, give them color, how many axles, type of trailer (enclosed, flatbed, etc). Then you make up your own VIN and they print out the ownership (title) papers and give you a plate.
ocod
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Comes in a box w/alot of pieces.
Just lay out it first then bolt things together.
The certificate like Dr said is what dealers use as new vehicle to apply for a title after sale.
In essence its a way to get title. Shows who and what it is from manufacturer.
Many states don't title trailers either.
Its a good buy and win win.
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Saw where Dr had commented on "COM' and titling in PA
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Dr Honda
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No need to shout.
Heres is what you get
Sorry... I didn't mean it as a shout. Just a firm iteration. (I'll ban myself for a week for being grumpy. LOL)
But yes... that's what comes in the box... a Certificate of origin. In a state like Ohio... you take that over to the DMV... and they will issue a plate, and a registration card without a second glance. In PA... it's such a circle jerk, that it's almost not worth the hassle.
Spimothy Leary
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lol, I hear ya, the price difference's up north compared to florida never fail to amaze me.
we can get a near mint single trailer for $200-$250 in Florida pretty much anytime. prices go down as the parts wear, since it seems that 75% need lights, bearings, winch, and have rusty springs and beat up tires.
I put a WTB ad for $200 on Craigslist and received at least 6 replys i looked at two and bought the nicest one $200 cash with title and it needed nothing.
2 years ago I went to my local seadoo dealer to buy a ski they had just taken in on trade. In the end, they wouldn't get realistic on the price of the ski, but instead sold me a two place aluminum featherlite trailer for $300 tax, title registration, out the door. It needed nothing and I used it the entire season as it was without issue. I figured I could take it to the scrap yard and get my money back in just aluminum value.
The HF trailer just doesn't seem worth the time and effort when you can get purpose built trailers ready to roll for this cheap. Maybe stick to buying the HF submersible LED lights.
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Spimothy Leary
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one more thing,,, that looks like a steel trailer.. steel rusts...quickly..
Ok, so I just called my local fast tags notary. I'll start off by saying they are hands down AWESOME and know their chit inside and out. I asked about a trailer from Harbor Freight that comes with a COO. The woman knew what I was talking about and said I would need to go to an enhanced mechanic for a trailer inspection and that they have the form to fill out.(She said I could Google for it, the EIS list) You need 4 photos of the trailer and one of them MUST show the safety chains. She said the trailer will need to be weighed but the COO should have the weight on it but if you were to add a piece of plywood for a deck that would need to be added to the weight. The state wants to make sure nothing has been added that wasn't accounted for, which is kinda stupid because I can always add it later?? She said after that form was filled out and signed off by the mechanic I would need to go to any fast tags place and fill out the proper form(not available online and the fast tags place fill it out and submits it) accompanied by the photos and the paperwork from the enhanced mechanic. She said the state would be the ones issuing the license plate and paperwork since it's considered a home built trailer and that I would not be walking out with a plate OR registration. She said the process to get the plate is roughly a week to two weeks time from when the state receives the forms etc..., they are very good with quoting expected times, they have usually been within a few days of my stuff.
Now here's the kicker she said, if NO WHERE on the COO it states the trailer is a kit or home built etc.. then you could just bring in the COO and they can process it right there.
PA actually has a PDF with their EIS's http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/inspections/enhancedstations.pdf
Doc, I think you live on the wrong side of the state
Then there is another way, it seems shifty but it's totally legit.
http://www.mainetrailerregistrations.com/ Go to line 6
http://www.mainetrailerregistrations.com/docs/HMDE.pdf
I would call them and see if the COO would be legit enough for them to process. Then once you have it registered and titled in your name you can now just transfer it to your state if you want I would assume. It's sorta like backdooring your DMV.
Now before everyone gets all up in arms, the next time your driving down the highway look at the big rigs trailer tags they're more than likely registered in Maine. A buddy of mine has his own trucking company and on numerous occasions he has told me Maine is where it's at for trailer registration. So you could always go that way to get it titled, YOU DON'T NEED TO LIVE THERE, that's the best part. I think it's worth a call, especially if your missing the paperwork. Yes it borders seedy, but somehow it's legit. Then I would assume you could transfer it into your name in your state at a later date. I know this won't help you much Kicker but if you knew someone in NY you could have them do it in their name and then you just do the papers in Canada, seems like way too much work honestly for a Canadian flip flop, but for someone state side it seems easier. I look at it this way, just follow the rules, don't give anymore information then what is asked and your good. Sorta like don't ask, don't tell.
It's worth a call.
Now here's the kicker she said, if NO WHERE on the COO it states the trailer is a kit or home built etc.. then you could just bring in the COO and they can process it right there.
PA actually has a PDF with their EIS's http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/inspections/enhancedstations.pdf
Doc, I think you live on the wrong side of the state
Then there is another way, it seems shifty but it's totally legit.
http://www.mainetrailerregistrations.com/ Go to line 6
http://www.mainetrailerregistrations.com/docs/HMDE.pdf
I would call them and see if the COO would be legit enough for them to process. Then once you have it registered and titled in your name you can now just transfer it to your state if you want I would assume. It's sorta like backdooring your DMV.
Now before everyone gets all up in arms, the next time your driving down the highway look at the big rigs trailer tags they're more than likely registered in Maine. A buddy of mine has his own trucking company and on numerous occasions he has told me Maine is where it's at for trailer registration. So you could always go that way to get it titled, YOU DON'T NEED TO LIVE THERE, that's the best part. I think it's worth a call, especially if your missing the paperwork. Yes it borders seedy, but somehow it's legit. Then I would assume you could transfer it into your name in your state at a later date. I know this won't help you much Kicker but if you knew someone in NY you could have them do it in their name and then you just do the papers in Canada, seems like way too much work honestly for a Canadian flip flop, but for someone state side it seems easier. I look at it this way, just follow the rules, don't give anymore information then what is asked and your good. Sorta like don't ask, don't tell.
It's worth a call.
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RodInEscondido
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If you do go the "shifty but legal" route you need to pay attention to them Non-resident fees.
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I would need to recheck, but seem to recall when I got one of these that there was a special certification for the tires so the rig could be registered for use on California highways ... do not know if this is specifically a California thing, but something to inquire about prior to purchase.
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