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Boating season is officially over..
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Ok...I give in...BOATING SEASON IN FLORIDA IS OFFICIAL OVER TOO!
....Uh well never. The weather here is 92*f and water temp is 86*f. Beer temp. 34*f and chilling.
I feel your pain, I moved here in 1996 from upstate N.Y., so I now how short the season is up north, all too well.
We'll be here all winter for ya, till the weather gets better in the spring.
:cheers:
Karl
....Uh well never. The weather here is 92*f and water temp is 86*f. Beer temp. 34*f and chilling.
I feel your pain, I moved here in 1996 from upstate N.Y., so I now how short the season is up north, all too well.
We'll be here all winter for ya, till the weather gets better in the spring.
:cheers:
Karl
rexsteiner
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ditto
Fall has hit hard here as well. So the boat is in the storage barn as well. You could always buy a snowmobile to bide your time til spring.
Fall has hit hard here as well. So the boat is in the storage barn as well. You could always buy a snowmobile to bide your time til spring.
nerdlinger
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It's nearing wetsuit season here in Georgia, so in a way the boating season never really ends here either.
Our season is over too, but not because of weather.
Today was 94 with heat index of 108....
Our season is over because the wife is in graduate school and her weekends are booked with projects and reports. So it just isn't fair for me to take the boat out with her brother or my family while she is home studying and writing research papers.
We still have plenty of decent weather coming our way...
My wakeboard is starting to dry-rot...
Today was 94 with heat index of 108....
Our season is over because the wife is in graduate school and her weekends are booked with projects and reports. So it just isn't fair for me to take the boat out with her brother or my family while she is home studying and writing research papers.
We still have plenty of decent weather coming our way...
My wakeboard is starting to dry-rot...
Jesse, Where you ride at?
The wife wants to make a trip to Somerville for a weekend of camping this fall, if she can find a break in her work schedule.
Other than that, there may be very little boating before it gets cold.
The wife wants to make a trip to Somerville for a weekend of camping this fall, if she can find a break in her work schedule.
Other than that, there may be very little boating before it gets cold.
Thunderkat13
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N. Texas Lakes are getting chilly... Waters at about 60-65 degree's.... All of the rain we've been getting is cooling them down fast...
The speedster is parked in the garage, almost empty tank of gas and fuel stabilizer mixed in, shes sleeping under her cover!
The speedster is parked in the garage, almost empty tank of gas and fuel stabilizer mixed in, shes sleeping under her cover!
tresvatos1
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Like the wetsuit idea!
Man that sounds awesome to ride in the cold with a wet suit.. I would like to get a PWC just to be able to do that.. I really miss my XP.. How cold does it have to be before the wetsuit is out of the question? I live in MS, so I'm almost parrallel to GA... Sounds like fun!!
Man that sounds awesome to ride in the cold with a wet suit.. I would like to get a PWC just to be able to do that.. I really miss my XP.. How cold does it have to be before the wetsuit is out of the question? I live in MS, so I'm almost parrallel to GA... Sounds like fun!!
Wet suites are made to work when they are wet, so wearing a wet suite on a seadoo is like wearing a coat in a rain storm. The idea of a wet suite is to be saturated with water and your body temperature warms the layer of water in the neoprene suite, to keep you warm. If you are exposed to the wind, it does nothing but act like a coat to protect from the wind. If your not in the water like a diver or surfer, the wet suite is a waste of time. If your sitting on a pwc and not wet, you might as well just wear a coat/ wind breaker for better protection from the cold wind and light water spray.
Karl
Karl
tresvatos1
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Gotcha Karl.. I was kinda thinking the same thing.. what is the secret to get in the water first and let your body heat warm you up.. That would suck if you had a coat on, and somehow got tossed in the cold water...I've heard of dry suit, but that would seal you off from the outside water and probably wouldn't be too comfortable..
Oh, yeah! A chance to argue with Karl!!!:boxing_smiley:
Put on a wetsuit for even a couple minutes while dry, and the inside will quickly become wet. Sweat.
I actually inquired into wearing one for snowskiing/snowboarding since it is so damned cold and you always end up sitting in a snowpile on the ski lift and your butt gets wet, then you are freezing the rest of the day.
Apparently, skiers know that wetsuits are DANGEROUS when worn outside of the water and strongly cautioned me to NOT wear one.
Their argument--when you are in the water, you heat up the thin layer of water between skin and suit, but it constantly is replaced with fresh water, slowly, so you keep an even, somewhat cool, temp.
On land, you sweat and add more body heat to that thin layer of water, and it keeps getting hotter until you pass out from exhaustion.
So, Karl is right, wetsuits don't work correctly in the dry, but in the exact opposite direction of what he was suggesting.
DISCLAIMER--I never did try the wetsuit in the snow trick, so I am just going by what all the skiers and snowboarders strongly suggested. So it could be pure bunk, but I talked to many skiers and they all said NO WAY! Too Dangerous.
Put on a wetsuit for even a couple minutes while dry, and the inside will quickly become wet. Sweat.
I actually inquired into wearing one for snowskiing/snowboarding since it is so damned cold and you always end up sitting in a snowpile on the ski lift and your butt gets wet, then you are freezing the rest of the day.
Apparently, skiers know that wetsuits are DANGEROUS when worn outside of the water and strongly cautioned me to NOT wear one.
Their argument--when you are in the water, you heat up the thin layer of water between skin and suit, but it constantly is replaced with fresh water, slowly, so you keep an even, somewhat cool, temp.
On land, you sweat and add more body heat to that thin layer of water, and it keeps getting hotter until you pass out from exhaustion.
So, Karl is right, wetsuits don't work correctly in the dry, but in the exact opposite direction of what he was suggesting.
DISCLAIMER--I never did try the wetsuit in the snow trick, so I am just going by what all the skiers and snowboarders strongly suggested. So it could be pure bunk, but I talked to many skiers and they all said NO WAY! Too Dangerous.
To answer your "how cold" question...
Your body will seldom get TOO cold to where you are uncomfortable, even with a thin suit, like a 2/1 in lets say low 50s water (2 mm body, 1 mm arms and legs, thinner for extra freedom of movement of legs and arms).
I used a 3/2 for many years, but as I got older and fatter, it was harder to paddle (surfing) so I switched to a 2/1.
The problem is that around 55 degrees or a little colder, your ears, fingers, and toes BURN because they are so cold.
But if wearing booties, gloves, and head/face covering, you can go down pretty cold, especially if wearing a thicker suit.
I like to feel where my feet are on my surfboard, so when it gets cold enough that my bare feet go numb, I am done for the season.
Your body will seldom get TOO cold to where you are uncomfortable, even with a thin suit, like a 2/1 in lets say low 50s water (2 mm body, 1 mm arms and legs, thinner for extra freedom of movement of legs and arms).
I used a 3/2 for many years, but as I got older and fatter, it was harder to paddle (surfing) so I switched to a 2/1.
The problem is that around 55 degrees or a little colder, your ears, fingers, and toes BURN because they are so cold.
But if wearing booties, gloves, and head/face covering, you can go down pretty cold, especially if wearing a thicker suit.
I like to feel where my feet are on my surfboard, so when it gets cold enough that my bare feet go numb, I am done for the season.
Sorry, no chance to argue with me over wet suits. If your a scuba diver you would know all about what a wet suite is about. It's purpose is to keeping you warm under water. I was a certified NAUI scuba instructor, not actively teaching now, but still a Dive Master. Without going into a lot of information that is useless for seadooer's, I just posted information in layman's terms for most wanting to know about wet suits, I put it in simple terms that everybody would understand. If your submersed in the water then a wet suite would be fine in low water temps, The colder the thicker the neoprene, but not for being above the surface of the water...like most pwc riders. A dry suite is a whole different item altogether too, again for under water in extreme cold conditions. If your wanting to ride in the cold temps, use a wind breaker over your clothes to keep the cold wind off your body. Always use a life jacket, eye protection, a hat and gloves. Stay warm and do it with light cloths so you could swim if you need to, if you fall off. Dress more like a Motorcycle rider, than a swimmer and try not to get dumped in the water. In extreme conditions or cold, it's a good thing to ride in pairs, just in case something happens and you fall in ...hypothermia is dangerous, it can happen in minutes and you could die from it if your not careful.
Karl
BUT, if you ride an older XP, wear a wetsuit. You will probably need it.
I personally get thrown off at least once or twice an hour the way I ride, and I also submarine the ski, jump waves, and just have water hitting me for nearly the entire ride.
For those riding the newer bigger skis or boats, you might be able to get away with dry clothes.
I personally get thrown off at least once or twice an hour the way I ride, and I also submarine the ski, jump waves, and just have water hitting me for nearly the entire ride.
For those riding the newer bigger skis or boats, you might be able to get away with dry clothes.
tresvatos1
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Thanks guys... That's what I was thinking, on an XP you are almost garaunteed to get thrown off, or flip over several times. Guess that wouldn't be a good idea to get in the water , then back on the ski... what i was thinking about the clothes and an XP is getting tossed in the water and clothes getting waterlogged and making it hard to swim plus the fact you would be freezing your butt off when you got back on... I wonder how many people on herer actually attempt to ride in the winter?
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nerdlinger
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wet suit
If you are out for a cruise then Karl has some valid points, but as Scooper said it makes sense on an older XP like mine. I don't ride in the cooler water to cruise the lake, I'm out there for the same reason I ride in the summer: to hold on for dear life. I EXPECT to be in the water, so the wet suit is absolutely necessary so I don't get too cold. In the cooler water I usually don't ride for more than an hour or so. I use my 3/2 scuba suit since I rarely dive anymore. I'm out there until the water temps get down to about 65, which will be Dec-Jan at my lake, then its too cool until April.
I never expected so much wetsuit discussion when I made my first post to this thread. I agree that wetsuit won't do much if you are just riding in a straight line, but thrashing about in the water and taking on the occasional total submersion are good reasons to wear one.
If you are out for a cruise then Karl has some valid points, but as Scooper said it makes sense on an older XP like mine. I don't ride in the cooler water to cruise the lake, I'm out there for the same reason I ride in the summer: to hold on for dear life. I EXPECT to be in the water, so the wet suit is absolutely necessary so I don't get too cold. In the cooler water I usually don't ride for more than an hour or so. I use my 3/2 scuba suit since I rarely dive anymore. I'm out there until the water temps get down to about 65, which will be Dec-Jan at my lake, then its too cool until April.
I never expected so much wetsuit discussion when I made my first post to this thread. I agree that wetsuit won't do much if you are just riding in a straight line, but thrashing about in the water and taking on the occasional total submersion are good reasons to wear one.
I do like nerdlinger in winter. I ride for an hour tops, wetsuited, and expecting to get wet on each trip out.
Our water seldom drops below 50, and if it does, I am staying home.
Our water seldom drops below 50, and if it does, I am staying home.
tresvatos1
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i wish I hadn't read this post guys.. now I'm missing my XP Those skis are small, but so much fun and manuervable ...That wouldn't be too practical though to have a boat and a ski, as i couldn't pull them both at the same time unless I came up with one of those trailer rigs like posted in the " what's your tow rig " section of the forums.. I don't know, if I could find an XP for around 3 Grand.. I may be tempted...
Those skis are small, but so much fun and manuervable ...That wouldn't be too practical though to have a boat and a ski, as i couldn't pull them both at the same time unless I came up with one of those trailer rigs like posted in the " what's your tow rig " section of the forums.. I don't know, if I could find an XP for around 3 Grand.. I may be tempted...Boat Season
After buying my 96 challager in April - New Prop and Wear ring plus carbs being rebuilt.
Had Boat out yesterday on Lake Lanier in Georgia - All humming good - Here you can boat all year except Dec and Jan - So I'll be out as often as work schedule permits.
Due to all the rain in Atlanta Lake Altonna 13ft above full sumer pool.
Good Luck to All
Glen
After buying my 96 challager in April - New Prop and Wear ring plus carbs being rebuilt.
Had Boat out yesterday on Lake Lanier in Georgia - All humming good - Here you can boat all year except Dec and Jan - So I'll be out as often as work schedule permits.
Due to all the rain in Atlanta Lake Altonna 13ft above full sumer pool.
Good Luck to All
Glen
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