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Best way to winterize my boat

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IBGMann2

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Hello everyone,

Well the end of the season is coming and I was just wondering what I needed to do to store the boat for the winter months. I don't have garage space to keep it inside. What do I need to do to have the least amount of problems come next summer. This is my first winter with my boat. I live in eastern Pennsylvania it does get pretty cold here! It's a 1995 seadoo speedster.

Thanks Guys
 
This is what you need to do to winterize your 2 Stroke Seadoo.
1) Insert fuel stabilizer in fuel tank. Make sure you have the proper mix ratio and rock the boat to mix it with gas.

2) Plug in the water hose in the back of the boat (not on the top because you will need to pinch some hoses to do it right). Start engine and let run for 4-5 minutes to get the stabilizer in the engine.

3) Use SEA-DOO LUBE (This is what seadoo recommends, and is made for this purpose) and spray inside the air intakes for at least 30-40 seconds. What I do is I spray the lube inside until the engine dies, then I know it's in there everywhere.

4) Remove spark plugs and spray SEA-DOO LUBE inside the holes. Don't be shy to use the stuff. Screw back the plugs in.

TIP: If you use the small red tube, hold onto it so it won’t fall into the engine.

5) Remove the gray cover on the PTO and grease the shaft (you will see the grease fittings after you remove the gray cover).

6) Now for the tricky part, adding the antifreeze. Be sure to use anti freeze made for aluminum block engines. You need to follow the service manual method exactly. The service manual says to pinch hoses, and insert the fluid from the top water line. On some models you needed to pinch 4 hoses. What I did is buy vice-grips with smooth jaws ($5.00 usd each). Fill it with around 2 liters of antifreeze, un pinch one hose, put another 6 oz., wait, then remove the vice-grips. Almost all the fluid will then come out at the bottom. The idea is to mix the antifreeze with whatever water was in the cooling system, so it doesn't freeze.

A service manual is a must and will be cheaper than if you get the engines winterized, so it's a definite good investment. It has pictures and detailed instructions for just about everything you need. I don't want to say what hose to pinch because it's different for each model. I recommend you join as a “Premium Member” to get your service manual and if you still have questions you could get advice from the forum’s expert moderators.

You also need to change the oil in the Jet Pump, incase it has water in it. Ask me for information and I’ll post it for you, as it is a bit much to post here in this post.

Do you have a seadoo shop manual? If not here’s an idea for you. You could join as a "premium member". As a premium member you can down load a authentic seadoo manual from the seadoo manual library. In the library is a variety of manuals for almost all years and models. You can view as many as you like on line as a PDF file, or download it and print it for your personal and private use. There are operator manuals and repair manuals for you to do your own repairs on your seadoo. The repair manuals have everything from troubleshooting, repair procedures to winterizing. It contains wire diagrams torque specs and pictures for disassemble and assemble instructions. In the spec sheets it tells everything needed to maintain oil changes, spark plug gaps, carburetor rebuilds and impeller wear ring tolerances. Click on the "Seadoo Manuals" link at the top of the page for more details. If you need any help or get in a jam, we are always here to answer your questions too. Premium members get priority when it comes to getting quick detailed answers.


Karl
 
I feel a little stupid asking but I am going to anyway...I have a 2008 challenger and I have been searching for the winterization post on it. I know I saw one last winter and for the life of me I cannot find it...anyone know where it is?
 
In the future, you should start your own post if you have a question. I will leave you some information on the 4-tec engine here also. This is information that is around the forum that should help.


Winterizing the 4-TEC engines

We have had a lot of request about getting our skis ready for the winter months, which are just around the corner for a few and not till about December for others (Florida, Texas and other areas of the Gulf Coast).
Let’s start by checking our skis out. When the off season is here, this is the perfect time to get our parts fixed, that we broke through the summer months and to do our yearly maintenance required in our shop manuals.

Hull and pump
1. You should check your steering cable for ease of movement. I use Lithium grease on most of my metal to metal moving parts. It holds up well with winter and moisture. WD-40, although a good lubricant, will run off the components you are trying to protect. So, don’t rely on it to last more than a week.
2. Look at the steering nozzle bushings and fasteners. Make sure all is tight and in good working order. Try to move it side to side at the bushings, to see if they are becoming worn.
3. Check your O.P.A.S. system. Where applicable, lubricate bushings and moving parts for the winter. Lithium is good here, but will eventually wear off while riding.
4. Check and lube your drive shaft. Looking for any signs of wear and corrosion.
5. Check your carbon ring and rubber boot. Check the carrier ring for a nice smooth surface.
6. Make sure your reverse bucket is in good operation. Lubricate all moving parts with the Lithium grease. Check that there are no nuts and bolts loose.
7. Check your VTS system for proper operation. Again, check for loose nuts and bolts; apply the Lithium grease where applicable.
8. Inspect the impeller boot.
9.Do an impeller to wearing ring clearance check. For me, if you don’t have the 45 degree angle feeler gages, just a visual will work. Remember, the impeller should be as close as it can be, like slipping a piece of paper between the blade and ring, and check the sacrificial anode since you’re under the ski. It’s the little round zinc piece usually held on by one screw.
10. Check your ride plate and intake grate for damage or any foreign objects. The space between the impeller and stator is the most likely place to find debris.
11. Look over the hull for any damage; check your drain plugs that the threads look good and not about to strip out on you.
12. Finally, check your entire pump end for anything that may have vibrated loose through the riding season. Remember, something small can become a major problem, if not taken care of when it’s least expensive.

Engine and subsystems
1. Check all fasteners that are within reach. Grab the motor and try to move it side to side to determine if you may have a bad motor mount.
2. If you didn’t have oil service this season, it’s time to change the oil and filter.
3. Its good to have a hydrometer on hand, to check the condition of your anti-freeze. It’s used to determine the maximum cold temperature your antifreeze will protect. A 50/50 mix of ethylene glycol and water is required for your engine. It is recommended to use biodegradable antifreeze compatible with internal combustion aluminum engines. Never use 100% anti-freeze, damage to seals can occur. Anti-freeze should be replaced every 2 years or 200 hours, whichever comes first.
4. Check your cooling system for leaks and that all hoses are tight. Looking for any fasteners that have corrosion and replace them as needed.
5. Look over your fuel injection/throttle body for any fuel leaks, loose hoses or electrical connections that may be corroded or worn. Check the filler neck of the fuel tank, to ensure it’s tight. Make sure your vent line is clear and blows free. When you are at the point of shutting it down for good through the winter months, buy a bottle of fuel stabilizer and run it a few times to ensure your entire fuel system is covered. This will keep the fuel from gumming up in the lines, pumps and check valves.
6. Spark plugs: Read them and replace them accordingly.
7. Check your battery charging system. While the engine is running, use a multi meter gage, positive lead to positive battery post and negative to post. Set your meter to 20VDC and your reading should be 14 to 14.5 volts DC. If not, further inspection of your charging system is required.
8. Clean your battery terminals and all connections. Un-snap all plugs and put a small amount of die-electric grease in them, then snap them back together.
9. Check all you’re wiring harness tie straps, replace if necessary. Check the operation of all your gages and verify that all your fuses are good. If you used one while on the water, remember to replace the ones you used and always keep spares onboard.
10. Clean your jet pump with a water hose. Let it dry, then spray liberally with XP-S lube………or, if you want to save a buck or two, use my preferred method of the Lithium spray on grease.
11. You should remove the cone on the jet pump, checking for water contamination.
12. Check that you have no water inside fuel tank. You can do this by removing the line coming from the tank and siphoning off an ounce or so, looking for water. It separates from the fuel, easy to spot.
13. Lubricate the throttle body linkage by spraying through the throttle body bore to get to the valve mechanism (again, with my favorite lub) and all external parts of the air induction system, especially if the craft was used in salt water.
14. You should use the XP-S lubricating spray for the lube fittings. The location of these fittings, depend on which model you have.
15. Engine fogging is done to prevent corrosion to the internal parts. Fogging provides a barrier between the metal components and the atmosphere, to inhibit rusting. Fogging provides protection to the intake valves, cylinders and exhaust valves.

FOGGING PROCEDURE
a) Remove the two bolts that hold the fuel rail on.
b) Remove the rail along with the three fuel injectors.
c) Spray liberally XP-S Lube into the intake ports.
d) Crank engine several times while keeping the throttle fully depressed (drown engine mode) to distribute lubricant in cylinders, on intake and exhaust valves.
e) Carefully inspect “0” rings condition before re-installing fuel injectors. Replace with new ones if damaged. Lubricate the “0” rings with a dab of oil prior to installing (doesn’t matter which type, it’s just to ease the installation).
f) Re-install the injectors. Apply Loctite 243 and torque the two bolts down to 80 lfb.in, that hold the fuel rail on.
g) Make sure there are no leaks at the injectors while cranking the engine over in the next few steps.

16. On the supercharged, intercooled models, the exhaust system is self draining but the intercooler and manifold need to the following protection.
a.) Remove both intercooler hoses.
b.) Let the intercooler drain, then connect the bottom hose.
c.) Pour about 6 and ½ ounces of antifreeze into the intercooler
through the other hose.
d.) Then, pour about 10 ounces of anti-freeze into the exhaust manifold.

CAUTION: If you fail to put anti-freeze into the exhaust, severe damage may occur to these components. You will want to use 100% anti-freeze in these components because it will dilute with water left over in the system.

17. And lastly, spray the entire engine with with XP-S lube (or WD-40) liberally, over all linkages and all metal parts. Partially lift the seat to allow any condensation that may build during storage. It’s best to use a cover to protect it from the sun’s rays while stored

Karl
 
kustomkarl,

Thanks for your post and I am going to join as a Premium member soon. Thank you for all your help again!

George:hurray:
 
3) Use SEA-DOO LUBE (This is what seadoo recommends, and is made for this purpose) and spray inside the air intakes for at least 30-40 seconds. What I do is I spray the lube inside until the engine dies, then I know it's in there everywhere.

I thought i remembered seeing them recommending Sea-Doo Storage (Fogging) Oil for this, but I could be wrong. Is there much of a difference between the two? I bought both
 
The 2 oils are about the same. I haven't seen any different between them. The information I posted is from information in different threads around the forum. I posted it in one post for your reading pleasure.

Karl
 
Thanks for all the info Karl!
Can you post the info or link for the Jet Pump oil:

You also need to change the oil in the Jet Pump, incase it has water in it. Ask me for information and I’ll post it for you, as it is a bit much to post here in this post.
 
Here is some info on the 2 stroke pump oil.

Use Sea Doo 75w90 GL5 Synthetic Polyester Oil, or similar same wt.

Karl
 
KArl, how do ya feel about using non seadoo fogging oil? I have a hard time justifying their $20 a can when I can get many other brands for around 5 bucks. I dont see how it could be much different.
 
Same question here? I picked up a duo pack of Fogging oil and Fuel stabiliser for 10$ at Canadain Tire. I cannot believe there is a big difference in fogging oils?
 
After the boat is winterized are there any steps needed next year to get the boat ready to go? i.e., drain any coolant, hook-up hose, etc
 
Re check the opposite of what you do this season to winterize it. Charge the battery. Run it on the hose the get the anti freeze out. New spark plugs, tighten everything and lube everything.

Karl
 
Here is some info on the 2 stroke pump oil.

Use Sea Doo 75w90 GL5 Synthetic Polyester Oil, or similar same wt.

Karl


I have no problems finding 75w90 GL5 Synthetic. However I do not see any Polyester ones?? Is this a problem or is Polyester part of the oils composition?
 
That is what I thought, just wanted to be sure as these boats seem particular to oils required etc.

Thanks again Karl for allowing us to drink from your 'Fountain of Knowledge' it is much appreciated.

Any thoughts on the fogging oil questions above? Is there really any difference between the BRP one vs others?
I assume removing the battery and storing indoors is also a good idea?
 
So I winterized my boat this weekend. All went well except I still see water in the clear small hoses. It appears the antifreeze is not filling them up. I clamped drain hoses as described and un hooked the one from engine block to allow air to escape. The block seems to have filled up but I am concerned the small hoses will split if they freeze up. Also I do not think the exhaust filled up either. Is there a way to get them to fill up? I poured from the top drain plug above battery. Boat is 2001 Sportster 130.
 
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