2008 215 S/C - ceramic washers, yea or nay???

[sktn77a]

OK, Bombadier won't speak to me ("contact your dealer"). Dealers haven't got a clue ("yes it does", "no it doesn't", "ceramic what?").

So....... Does the 2008 Sea-Doo GTX-215 Limited have the ceramic washers or not? The boat has 5 hours on it so I don't want to replace metal washers if it's not necessary but if it has the ceramic washers, then I'll take it in and have the S/C rebuilt.

If anybody knows the definitive answer to this question I'll be in your debt until I die!

:facepalm:

Keith

 

[Coastiejoe]

Officially, the 08's are suppose to be free and clear of the ceramic washers, that said, we have seen more than a fist full that have had them. As best I can tell, it is the early builds. So, the best thing to do is, pull and and take a picture of the washers and post the picture. We will know from the picture.

 

[red2blue]

OK, Bombadier won't speak to me ("contact your dealer"). Dealers haven't got a clue ("yes it does", "no it doesn't", "ceramic what?").

So....... Does the 2008 Sea-Doo GTX-215 Limited have the ceramic washers or not? The boat has 5 hours on it so I don't want to replace metal washers if it's not necessary but if it has the ceramic washers, then I'll take it in and have the S/C rebuilt.

If anybody knows the definitive answer to this question I'll be in your debt until I die!

:facepalm:

Keith

I don't care if they are ceramic or metal and they only have 5 hrs on them.

The bearings and specifically the cages that hold them together are 6+ yrs old.

Do what you want. :thumbsup:

 

[Coastiejoe]

I will second what redblue said,,, The cages do fail as they age. So you technically are due for a rebuild. That said, having almost no hours on the engine, they will not be as brittle as an engine that had been run for many hours over the years...

 

[red2blue]

True enough, Joe.

That said....would you fire it up for a nice long run down the ICW?

 

[red2blue]

Keith, Virgil himself has told me that the "ceramic" hoopla is just that...hoopla. He didn't see any failures.

Maybe so...but I will tell you from personal experience....a wheel touching down at 40K rpm...ain't no joke...and nuthin to gamble with. Not tryin to be a dck...but man...you cannot cheap out on the maintenance on these toys.

 

[sktn77a]

Keith, Virgil himself has told me that the "ceramic" hoopla is just that...hoopla. He didn't see any failures.

Thanks, red, this is a very useful anecdote. I fully understand your comments about penny-wise and pound foolish. Every dealer I've spoken to said pretty much the same thing - "just have the S/C rebuilt at 100 hours and after that, you can do it every 200 hours". Of course, if it craps out on me after 20 hours they lose nothing.

 

[Coastiejoe]

And if we are being honest,,, I do believe that I would take it out for a cruise or two...

But I would be getting it rebuilt. Especially since the site offers the service. Hard to trust people more than those associated with the site...

 

[sktn77a]

If I were a little more handy, I might do the removal and install myself, but for a couple of reasons that not going to be possible (I'm not at the boat's location and I wouldn't be comfortable with that level of teardown). I'll probably winterize it and have the work done next spring.

 

[Coastiejoe]

Removal is easy,,, This site even did a video on it. It really is not a difficult thing to do.

 

[TplusR]

I just sent one of my SC (55 hours) in for a rebuild to PWCmuscle on Monday....it really doesn't get any easier than that....and for the price, they are far cheaper than a dealer or indy mechanic.....

 

[sktn77a]

Removal is easy,,, This site even did a video on it. It really is not a difficult thing to do.

I searched the site, couldn't find the video. Do you have a link?

 

[Coastiejoe]

[MENTION=31048]LouDoo[/MENTION]. Do you have time to find this. I'm busy for the next several hours.

 

[sktn77a]

Never mind. I Googled it and found the PWC Muscle video. I'll leave it to the stealer over the winter.

 

[Coastiejoe]

Sorry I couldn't help you earlier, I was on the road and I seriously limit my phone use while driving. I can talk all day long as my Lexus has built in blue-tooth, I just don't text...

 

[sktn77a]

Joe: Sorry if that sounded off ("never mind") - it wasn't intended to. I just got my thumb out of my butt and Googled "seadoo supercharger rebuild" and found a couple of videos.

 

[Coastiejoe]

I didn't take it in a negative way. No issues.


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[LouDoo]

[MENTION=43374]Coastiejoe[/MENTION] Kevin, sorry I just got your message, we played hookey today and went to the lake, 88 here today, not too many of these days left, at least for us.

Lou

 

[Coastiejoe]

Don't blame you at all Lou. Getting out this late in the season is a must do when you have the chance. No issues.


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