1997 GSX Won't Start in Water
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I only suggest sticking with OEM electronic parts on these. The aftermarket stuff is so hit or miss.
On the OEM caps there’s nothing to strip on the wires. Just cut 1/4” off and leave them blank. The caps have a screw inside that actually threads into the rubber insulation to contact the metal wire inside.
On the OEM caps there’s nothing to strip on the wires. Just cut 1/4” off and leave them blank. The caps have a screw inside that actually threads into the rubber insulation to contact the metal wire inside.
Your trailer symptoms to me seem carburation (partially plugged micro filter), or fuel delivery( fuel lines, fuel filter, fuel selector more so, or fuel pick up filter.) .
noviceskier
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No, no stripping it actually just screws in.
skysurf69
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I had to clean up the connections at the MPM and the wiring harness plug in point and re di electrical grease them, several times so far, just with electrical connecting cleaner and a toothbrush, it was corroded in there on several points and causing all kind of electrical glitches. There is 3 of them. Sometimes on the 787 when they run on the trailer but wont run or good in the water, is also caused by a vacuum leak somewhere on the intake side, like the seal around the intake valve... Just saying.
sgibson
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Okay, guys here an update,
I have replaced a lot of things today, I replaced the starter solenoid, the ignition coil, the starter, the MPEM/rectifier, all the wiring on the starter system and put in the trim fix module which is awesome by the way works like a champ! Also on saturday, I replaced the fuel pump which was a pain in the rear seeing how the only way getting it out was to take out the whole steering system!!!
(((((((((((((( But I got it done. All the sensors are working properly and everything seems to be smooth thus far we will see tomorrow. Also, I applied dielectric grease to everything (I still have to do the battery posts but was running out of daylight, needed to get the other stuff done).
So it started right up like as soon as I hit the switch the jet ski is fired up and idling. It doesn't struggle to start as it used out of the water. So a very good sign!
I added the ground anyways because in the manual it has it and coming from my background it would make since the ignition coil needs a true ground(not really true but true in this system). See the picture below, might want to let your buddies know.
I am going to try it out tomorrow on the lake. I will update tomorrow if I can make it to the lake.
I have replaced a lot of things today, I replaced the starter solenoid, the ignition coil, the starter, the MPEM/rectifier, all the wiring on the starter system and put in the trim fix module which is awesome by the way works like a champ! Also on saturday, I replaced the fuel pump which was a pain in the rear seeing how the only way getting it out was to take out the whole steering system!!!
(((((((((((((( But I got it done. All the sensors are working properly and everything seems to be smooth thus far we will see tomorrow. Also, I applied dielectric grease to everything (I still have to do the battery posts but was running out of daylight, needed to get the other stuff done).So it started right up like as soon as I hit the switch the jet ski is fired up and idling. It doesn't struggle to start as it used out of the water. So a very good sign!
I added the ground anyways because in the manual it has it and coming from my background it would make since the ignition coil needs a true ground(not really true but true in this system). See the picture below, might want to let your buddies know.
I am going to try it out tomorrow on the lake. I will update tomorrow if I can make it to the lake.
sgibson
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Oh and forgot to mention I replaced the fuel filter/o-ring as well. I have ordered 2 selector valves and both were wrong I don't know why they say they fit 1997 gsx's when the turn valve is in the wrong direction very saddening. But the old one still works so I am not going to bother with it since I cleaned it when I pulled it out the first time.
Ckrawiec
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More wrenching...less typing...we all understand. But it is nice to give an issue some CLOSURE....a post mortem is always nice to see that an issue has been fixed and how it was fixed and/or addressed. I hate it when posts just go dead with no closure...you always wonder -> what the hell happened? (that's just me)
Ckrawiec
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Sounds like you are well on your way...she'll live to run another day...pitter-patter -> keep at her!
sgibson
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Which website did you use? I'll get one off of there.
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sgibson
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Here's an update,
IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Got it out on the lake today and tried many things to replicate the issue it wasn't having it. The only issue I am having now is tuning the carbs because it is bogging down a lot, for instance when I hit full throttle it will go(like trying to get on top of the wake), then bog, then die. But I didn't get stuck in the lake today so that's a step!
I did have a user error that I resolved quickly which was if I really didn't push the key hard enough onto the DESS post then my info gauge would pop up like it was primed(flickering on/off most of the time). Then when I went to hit the start/stop button the starter system wasn't getting a signal causing the starter system not to work couldn't even hear the solenoid click. So I blame it on me because it didn't have a good connection.
Does anybody know of a good way to tune the carbs out of the water?
Can it work like this or no?
1/4 throttle = ????? rpms
1/2 throttle = ????? rpms
3/4 throttle = ????? rpms
full throttle = ????? rpms
I just don't know the numbers.
Also yeah I will use those sites thank you @mikidymac
Thank you guys for your help!
IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Got it out on the lake today and tried many things to replicate the issue it wasn't having it. The only issue I am having now is tuning the carbs because it is bogging down a lot, for instance when I hit full throttle it will go(like trying to get on top of the wake), then bog, then die. But I didn't get stuck in the lake today so that's a step!
I did have a user error that I resolved quickly which was if I really didn't push the key hard enough onto the DESS post then my info gauge would pop up like it was primed(flickering on/off most of the time). Then when I went to hit the start/stop button the starter system wasn't getting a signal causing the starter system not to work couldn't even hear the solenoid click. So I blame it on me because it didn't have a good connection.
Does anybody know of a good way to tune the carbs out of the water?
Can it work like this or no?
1/4 throttle = ????? rpms
1/2 throttle = ????? rpms
3/4 throttle = ????? rpms
full throttle = ????? rpms
I just don't know the numbers.
Also yeah I will use those sites thank you @mikidymac
Thank you guys for your help!
I chased something like you have on my XP a few weeks ago. This is the thread 1996 XP Battery Voltage Drop
I had a spare electric box and changed the whole thing but the problem was the coil. Yes... the coil. Read my dilemma and the process. Strange strange, strange. I do love a good quest as long as I win in the end. LOL
I had a spare electric box and changed the whole thing but the problem was the coil. Yes... the coil. Read my dilemma and the process. Strange strange, strange.
I do love a good quest as long as I win in the end. LOL- Status
