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djredman99 said:
miamiboy, not all PWC oils are the same. What brand specifically did you buy and what is it's rating. Again, you are looking for API-TC low ash rating.

NOT a TC-W3 rating
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it was quicksilver from walmart. pwc oil yes its ati-tc..

i went out on the water today after adding oil to the oil tank. and i added some more gas and oil mix. to the gas tank.. this time i mixed it with the pwc oil, and added it to the tank of existing gas.(is this ok?) i ask because the gas that was already in the tank is mixed with just regular 2 cycle oil.

ok after doing all of that, i took it out, maybe 5 or 10 minutes later it dies and does not start again. it turns over, gets gas, and the plugs are firing. but when i take out the plugs they look really wet..I THINK THIS IS MY PROBLEM.

can anyone tell me why its not starting.
 
miamiboy where do you test at?
I'm going to Markham on Sunday with some other guys
 
does anyone think it is a good idea to take the engine apart and change out all the seals and stuff that should be replaced? Afterall the seadoo was sitting up for like 4 or 5 years. i just cleaned the carberator and replaced the fuel lines inside the tank.

FYI
if i leave the spark plug loose the oil comeing out is really black and watery like
 
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I seached zip and came out South Miami.

If it sat that long get all the oil out and check compression.
No need to take engine apart yet I would think.
 
i forgot to mention the first day i was riding, which was yesterday, one of the spark plugs were loose the entire time. i noticed it when i got it home and tightened up for today. and rode for 10 minutes and that was it.
 
well i just went to make sure my seadoo was still where i left it last night and it was. thank god!

i bought new plugs and i noticed that all of my fuel was sitting in the back of my seadoo. could it have been the upper fuel line on the carb. because it was spit a little where it connects to the carb. and it had no clamp. i will clamp it and try it out when my battery charges.
 
wow dude you really really meant your stuck on the water..
I don't think all the gas would drain out from the supply to the carb??
Check lines again and make sure you have the right hose connected to carb inlet.(remove line and blow through it. You should hear bubbles. If not lines are crossed).

edit: saw info on q I asked
 
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wow! wtf?? dude really was stuck!
listen man, Ive been thru the ringer with mine, and until you KNOW it is EXTREMELY reliable, DO NOT go out further than you can swim back to shore WITH the ski, unless you constantly have a buddy within site on a ski or a boat...its just not worth it...especially if you're testing it like within an hour before dark...TRUST ME, ive learned the hard way...
Ive also learned, KEEP some sort of tow rope on your ski..cuz you NEVER KNOW..

well if your plugs are loose, thats one problem...
also, are you sure it was FUEL at the back of your seadoo and not water from sitting in the water overnight?
if it IS fuel, i wouldnt try starting ANYTHING till it is COMPLETEly drained and flushed out...
Make sure you dispose of it properly, and DO NOT put it back into the ski...thats just asking for fuel delivery problems...
let us know whats going on...
 
miamiboy...

I think you need to slow down a little here. Your ski sounds like it has lots of issues, but I can tell that all you want to do it ride. Not only could you damage your machine even further, but you potentially have a very dangerous situation for your own safety.

A ski that sits for 4-5 years cannot just be taken out and ridden. You are going to have to go over the entire machine...fuel system, lubrication, electronics, etc. and make sure everything is in order and running properly. It is what should be expected from a 20 year old ski you bought for $100.

Seems like I have been giving this exact same advice to quite a few people lately.
 
dj...are you related to Doc? You both give sound advice and live in same area! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Great news about BRP this morning...see other thread.
 
96spxpos said:
wow! wtf?? dude really was stuck!
listen man, Ive been thru the ringer with mine, and until you KNOW it is EXTREMELY reliable, DO NOT go out further than you can swim back to shore WITH the ski, unless you constantly have a buddy within site on a ski or a boat...its just not worth it...especially if you're testing it like within an hour before dark...TRUST ME, ive learned the hard way...
Ive also learned, KEEP some sort of tow rope on your ski..cuz you NEVER KNOW..

well if your plugs are loose, thats one problem...
also, are you sure it was FUEL at the back of your seadoo and not water from sitting in the water overnight?
if it IS fuel, i wouldnt try starting ANYTHING till it is COMPLETEly drained and flushed out...
Make sure you dispose of it properly, and DO NOT put it back into the ski...thats just asking for fuel delivery problems...
let us know whats going on...
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hell, when I go water test I bring my paddle lol
But yeah stay close to shore or go with a friend.
 
yea i was close to the shore and just put it onshore so it didnt float away. but still far from the boat ramp. bout 1 / 2 mile and the shore is rocks so its kinda hard to pull it down to the ramp because it keeps hitting the rocks.

well i think my problem is that im getting to much fuel in the carb. someone told me it was the needle in the carb..can it be?

it turns over just fine. even if i gas it all the way it will sound like it wants to run. but it doesn't. one time it ran today for about 20 seconds and i hit the stop switch so i could push it in the water and then it wouldn't run. and then the battery died. its currently charging. its a brand new pwc battery..

the spark plugs are sparking fine but it seems they are way to wet.
 
ocod said:
remove plugs and crank it over until no more oil spitting out. only way I've read.
BTW you should of drained old gas from tank if you didn't.
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yes i drained all the gas and cleaned the tank before anything because it was nasty. i replaced the lines inside the tank aswell.
 
djredman99 said:
miamiboy...

I think you need to slow down a little here. Your ski sounds like it has lots of issues, but I can tell that all you want to do it ride. Not only could you damage your machine even further, but you potentially have a very dangerous situation for your own safety.

A ski that sits for 4-5 years cannot just be taken out and ridden. You are going to have to go over the entire machine...fuel system, lubrication, electronics, etc. and make sure everything is in order and running properly. It is what should be expected from a 20 year old ski you bought for $100.

Seems like I have been giving this exact same advice to quite a few people lately.
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yes you are right i just wanted to ride it because i never owned one b4 and only rode like twice, but now i dont want to ride unless i know its working good..

i had a buddy of mine take the carb off and clean it. i dont know how well of a job he did, but the same day we were riding for a couple of hours until we ran out of gas.. only rode it 5 minutes since i put more gas in it.
 
miamiboy33155 said:
yes you are right i just wanted to ride it because i never owned one b4 and only rode like twice, but now i dont want to ride unless i know its working good..

i had a buddy of mine take the carb off and clean it. i dont know how well of a job he did, but the same day we were riding for a couple of hours until we ran out of gas.. only rode it 5 minutes since i put more gas in it.
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Me's think you will rebuild carbs again.
Even though you said tank was removed and cleaned it may of sucked something after you ran out of gas. If that is the only varibale.
If it ran fine with out issues until after it ran out of gas. Start with the carbs again.

have you checked compression by any chance?? a cooked engine will not start
 
go to discount/advance and buy 25 tester.
remove spark plug and screw in tester.
ziptie thumb throttle open to get max air and bump starter watching gauge.
readings 150 perfect. 149-120 okay. Anything less than 90 prepare for rebuild.
 
i finally got it home after paddling to the ramp..

now for some reason the gas is not getting to the carb.

if i put some gas mix into the carb it'll start up for a sec and thats it..


PLEASE ANYONE. I NEED HELP..SHOULD I REBUILD THE CARB.

OR CAN IT BE THE FUEL RESERVE VALVE THAT IS NOT GOOD..

HELP!!!!!!!
 
wow...
you need to take a step back..
as djred said,
he's not saying it for his health..
I've been where u are, and TRUST ME, if you want that ski to be around longer than an hour ride total, you NEED to listen to us instead of begging for help...
you CAN NOT just get on that thing, make a few tweaks and ride..it sat for way too long...
whether you already did some of this or not, MAKE SURE it gets done...
clean fuel tank/switch lines (which you already said)
replace in line fuel filter
REBUILD CARBS and use GENUINE MIKUNI KITS or dont even bother!
Make sure your oil line is still hooked up to ur RV or you'll kill the ski
Make sure your carbs are set to factory specs while you're rebuilding them
To get what the factory specs for your ski is, you NEED to BUY or DOWNLOAD the shop manual for ur ski....
you need this anyway, cuz trust me, this wont be the only time you'll need it..
there's still ALOT more to do, such as servicing your pump, etc, but these are the basics... skip any of these steps at your own descretion, but don't expect the ski to live long and prosper..

Also, as far as your fuel delivery, considering the age, you may want to look into replacing your fuel selector...Most will tell you, cleaning it just doesnt cut it..

Also, don't ever doubt the obvious, look over EVERYTHING, and sometimes it helps to have a second set of eyes...
on mine, the PO replaced the motor and the ski wouldnt start when i bought it unless i put premix in the holes and fired it like you..
looked all over, finally, under the hood, the guy just put a random "T" connector in the gas line with nothing else connecting to it, so it NEVER got fuel...removed the "T" and it fired up and ran amazing...

Good Luck Mang
 
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