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Lost jet pump nozzle after running for an hour.

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alindley said:
To me from up close, it looks like NONE of the bolts broke off. They all came out.

I just put in a BRAND new wear ring. But the guy who put it in didnt put the 2 screws in the top or bottom cause he said it lets the wear ring live longer.

I wd40d it when I got home, the propeller still seems to spin ok, he told me to try to check out if the bearings were good. To me it seems ok, a bit of metal noise but pretty free.

Not sure what you mean 1 piece wear ring, my new wear ring was just one big plastic ring. Impeller looks a little bit beat up, like 3 of the fins are chewed up tho.
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Right in here he is talking about the screws that hold the wear ring in. He stated he didn't put them in because it lets the wear rind last longer. So this is the statement I was referring to. So I did read it correctly it doesn't say anything about leaving the cone screws out so read it again. In fact it says one of the cone screws was broke off in the pump!
 
chucked said:
Whatever guy
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I don't know what you going back and forth with me for I was just stating that he said he didn't put the screws in the wear ring which is something that happens a lot and it usually has no effect on the wear ring at all. There is no reason for your whatever guy comment. You must have reread the post and now that's all you can come up with. I was questioning the reasons for those screws when the wear ring is pressed in and has a tight fit if using a oem wear ring. It sounds to me like the cone wasn't tightened up correctly and vibrated loose and the next place to go is out the back of the jet pump.
 
From the pictures it looks as thought you need a cone and the screws that hold it on. Check your bearings you may need them otherwise your pump, wear ring, impeller look fine. Put a new cone on it and new oil and run it.
 
I was talking about the screws that hold the cone on.

I have another theory of what happened, the cone came off causing the oil to dissipate the bearings overheated causing the impeller shaft two wobble, causing the impeller to wobble and cut the wear ring. Anyway I imagine that the pump will need to be rebuilt, not a bad job, around $100.00 in parts and a new wear ring, about $60.00, new cone and screws $25.00.

This is a good reason to do the work yourself, because you know the work is done right.

Lou
 
Lou don't forget the $60 Dr Honda tools.

alindley was the wear ring all white? Sounds like he had an SBT ring to begin with, so there goes the wear ring failure idea. I think the cone screws just came loose.
 
ok sweet. I would love to order from minnetonka but I want this running by the weekend. so gonna have to order the parts from dealer or something. I filled pump with wd40 but havent took it all aprt yet.

is the used pump a bad idea, and slowly fix this old one.

the new wear ring is all black, still looks perfect.

the old wear ring had a white liner


and 60$ tools? I have had a the tools thus far, and the dude who came over is a tech for police boats so he prob has the rest? but I dunno how much I wanna call him. it was only the 2 wear ring screws he left out nothing with the cone
 
OK sounds like your ring and stuff is OK. You still need a cone, cone bolts, cone plug, anti-rattle thing, and probably a pump rebuild kit with pump oil and bearing/seal install tools.

If I had to bet the cone bolts weren't tightened and the force of all that water pressure loosened them all up
 
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OK sounds like your ring and stuff is OK. You still need a cone, cone bolts, cone plug, anti-rattle thing, and probably a pump rebuild kit with pump oil and bearing/seal install tools.

If I had to bet the cone bolts weren't tightened and the force of all that water pressure loosened them all up
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Lovely, as I cant wait to get them shipped across the boarder, there is a sea doo dealer here where I can order OEM parts...
Should I just order the parts and attempt it? Or should I take it in and let them do it. They charge 100 an hour.
I assume the 60$ tools = the bearing/seal install tools you're saying?

I do have that guy who did the wear ring, he may have the tools but I'm not sure how much I wanna ask him... But it sounds like wasnt his fault anyways.

And whats the anti rattle thing? I will be calling tomorrow
 
there's no way you're going to get it done by this weekend if you try doing it yourself, I think you need more time to plan it through. There are plenty of threads here on how to do it
 
i doubt even paying the dealer will get you on the water this weekend, most of them are pretty backed up right now since its the beginning of the season. i'd order the parts from wherever you can get them from in canada, or wait for them to go through customs from minnetonka or osdparts. the tools from dr. honda are the seal and bearing install tools like you guessed. makes rebuilding a jet pump a breeze. OSDparts sells a jet pump oil change/cone kit that comes with the o-rings you'll need, a new cone with spring and pusher and a bottle of klotz pump oil. you should be able to get the bolts from a local hardware store, they're just regular stainless hex head bolts. someone on here should be able to post the size and length you'll need.
 
it cant be that hard can it? I found a place near me that looks like they have them in stock. I did whole drive shaft assembly in 2 hours with no prior knowledge going in.

how do I know if I need the whole rebuild kit? my buddy said just keep it lubed if it still spins pretty free the bearings should be ok and ill only need cone oil and I guess anti rattle??

im pretty sure I personally did the cone last year wrong, someone told me to take off the cone and check the oil, it was all good so I just screwed it back on with no thread lock. wasnt touched since


ya prob gonna go paintballing now instead ;p
 
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the thing is you don't know what kind of damage has been done while the pump oil was gone. you should pull the pump and impeller and inspect the shaft for scoring or discoloration from heat. depending on how long you ran without lube in the pump you could have done some pretty serious damage, and if you just slap a new cone on and fill it with oil, you might end up having to replace more parts later on when the thing really melts down.
 
I checked the drive shadt already. it looks good.only Inside the pump I havent checked (impeller, bearings) I ran it about 10 mins if that without the cone. I noticed exactly when I lost all my power and headed right in. did a pass or 2 In the no wake zone to make sure something was up
 
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grabbed the cone and oil. checked the shaft still looks good. I can take a pic if you want. came with o rings but no hex nuts so ill have to find the sizes. had a little thing (I guess the anti rattle)

the only way to check the bearings is to open it tho eh
 
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