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Is this a rectifier issue?

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quadchris8390

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I have a 97 gsx and the last couple of times I had it on the water it ran great but would not even get a beep from the dess when we turn it off and try to restart it. I noticed today while out on the first run that the 12v low indicator was flashing. I had a suspicion it would do it again so we beached it. Tried to start it and nothing. No beeps no indicators on panel. I have a new battery in it so that couldn't be the issue. I am thinking maybe the rectifier. Any thoughts? Also if so, how can I tell if it is bad?

Thanks

Chris
 
First, check your battery cables for oxidized and/or lose connections. If you have a voltmeter, your battery at rest with engine off should measure at least 12.5 volts.

Check all your fuses, there is usually one in the e-box where your ignition coils are, so check there too. Recharge your new battery only after disconnecting it from the ski, if the battery voltage is below 12.5 volts. Connecting your ski's MPEM to a power source greater than about 13.8 volts can damage the MPEM, many battery chargers can exceed this voltage. Therefore, disconnect the battery during charging and measure it before reconnecting to make sure the voltage is not too high.

Once the ski is back running, check the battery voltage at engine idle on the trailer, or 3000RPM in the water, it should be around 13.8~14.4 volts with the engine running. If yes, then the battery is receiving charging current.

If all this checks out and the battery voltage isn't above 14.4 volts, then there likely aren't any problems with the rectifier. A defective rectifier can in some instances cause the ski to run horribly, if the system voltage is too high or if the rectifier is passing AC instead of DC, but your description sounds more like a lose connection or blown fuse.

Never jump start your ski from another source such as a car, the system voltage can be too high. I would measure any external power source before connecting it to the ski, it should be less than 13.8 volts otherwise the ski's MPEM can be damaged.

If you find a blown fuse, and it blows again immediately when you replace it, don't install a larger fuse than is supposed to go there. If the fuse repeatedly blows, you likely have a problem, and this can be traced based on which fuse your are experiencing the problem with.
 
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i would pull battery out and let it charge over night, then put it back in the ski and follow the above steps mentioned above. I just had to replace my recitier and went through the same steps to check.

Also your beeper not beeping could just be that its starting to go bad. I replaced my beeper with one from radioshack for like $8 bucks.
 
12.4 is a little low, shouldn't be less than 12.5 You could have a charging/stator/rectifier issue that's causing the battery to run down over a short period of time.

But, you have no power on your gauges, despite you have 12.4 volts on the battery. So that means most likely there is no current flowing to your MPEM, possibly due to a blown fuse of lose cable/terminal. I suppose you've cleaned your battery terminals well, already.

Since you have a voltmeter, connect one lead to the battery negative and the other you can use to trace the power through the e-box all the way to the MPEM. Then, you can also move that ground lead to the engine block and do the same, and if then no power is detected, the ground connection between your battery and the engine block is suspect.
 
I will check the fuses this week. Hoping it is that simple. Thanks for the help. I will update you guys as I troubleshoot. Thanks again.
 
Still having this problem. I have checked all fuses and they are good. Had battery checked and charged again. Out of the jet ski of course. I have 2 of these jet skis and the other doesn't have this problem. Is it possible to take the rectifier out of one and put in the other to see if that is the issue? I just don't want to mess up any electronics if they aren't compatible for some reason. Another thought is maybe a loose ground wire. Any thoughts on where this is connected? Thanks
 
Still having this problem. I have checked all fuses and they are good. Had battery checked and charged again. Out of the jet ski of course. I have 2 of these jet skis and the other doesn't have this problem. Is it possible to take the rectifier out of one and put in the other to see if that is the issue? I just don't want to mess up any electronics if they aren't compatible for some reason. Another thought is maybe a loose ground wire. Any thoughts on where this is connected? Thanks

I have reread this post several times. It still sounds like a battery. Take the Battery from the other ski and put it in this ski and see what happens.
 
Just tried that and nothing. Battery has 12.8 volts.

12.8 volts is enough. Just so I know where you're at on this, you have the battery connected and there's no sign of life anywhere on the ski, doesn't crank and no gauges.

In that case, the problem isn't the charging circuit unless a fuse is blown somewhere, depends on which fuse and why. I'm looking at the 1996 schematic, maybe it's the same. There are two fuses in your rear electric box where the ignition coil resides, a 7.5A and a 15A, are these both good?
 
Correct. There is no sign of life. The 97 has 1 15 amp fuse and it is good. There is no beep from the DESS and no gauges come on either.
 
I would remove every hot and ground, clean the ends, clean where they mount, put dielectric grease on the connections then put the wires back together.

I know you have a good battery, but it still sounds like the voltage/amps are not making it through the wires.

For the heck of it, jump the solenoid and tell us what happens...
 
Either a bad dess post or a bad ground, check your grounds first then see if you can get into diagnostic mode by pressing the start button five times with te key off, if you get a long and short beep, put the key on and hit the start button again, if you get a series of long beeps, that's the fault codes, count them and refer to the manual, if you get two short beeps, all is ok, check the connections for the dess post and the post itself.

If it won't go into diagnostic mode or come to life at all (should with two pushes of start button with key off), I'd look back toward the battery or the ground.
 
This is not a rectifier problem, like others have said, check your cables, fuses, and switch the battery with your other ski.

Lou
 
I had the battery load tested today and it was good. As far as jumping the solenoids, I will try tomorrow. Have never done it. Is it the 2 posts coming out of the e box near the battery? How do I jump them? I may be getting over my head.
 
Correct. There is no sign of life. The 97 has 1 15 amp fuse and it is good. There is no beep from the DESS and no gauges come on either.

Man, I bet you've got a corroded wire or fuse holder in the electric box, especially if there's ever been salt water in there.

As a quick check, what voltage do you measure at the red wire on the rectifier? If it isn't the same as your battery, there's a corroded wire or blown fuse somewhere between there and your battery. If you do measure the battery voltage there, then you might have a corroded negative battery cable where it connects to the boss on the engine block, or an open/corroded wire on/near your MPEM.

Let me know what voltage the red wire of the RR has on it, we'll walk through this whole thing if we have to, till we find the problem.

You're not getting over your head, we'll walk you through it, no problem.
 
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I had the battery load tested today and it was good. As far as jumping the solenoids, I will try tomorrow. Have never done it. Is it the 2 posts coming out of the e box near the battery? How do I jump them? I may be getting over my head.
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Not sure where they are all mounted.

But basically, follow the hot wire from the battery. It will go directly to the solenoid. Once you find it, jump the two larger lugs with a screw driver or pliers.

If it cranks and cranks well, then the batteries and the connections are all good. Then you would have to be looking for MPEM issues. Not the MPEM itself persay, but one of the smaller wires or a fuse that feed or come from the MPEM.

If it does not crank, then you for sure have a connection issue, bad wire, bad battery or bad starter kind of thing...
 
Well I think we are getting closer. So this morning I checked the battery. 12.8 volts. Unplugged power from computer and checked voltage at front of the jet ski. Only 4 volts. I then jumped it at the solenoid and it started right up. My thinking is there is a bad wire somewhere after the solenoid and before the MPEM.
 
Well I think we are getting closer. So this morning I checked the battery. 12.8 volts. Unplugged power from computer and checked voltage at front of the jet ski. Only 4 volts. I then jumped it at the solenoid and it started right up. My thinking is there is a bad wire somewhere after the solenoid and before the MPEM.

It is a wire or connection based on that. I was very sure it was a battery/voltage issue. Just had to determine if it was the battery or the feed wires.
 
Ok, I made a mistake. When I was measuring voltage this morning, I was measuring after the MPEM. I was measuring the hot wires from the MPEM to the rectifier. I have to find the hot wires before the MPEM. If I get good voltage before the MPEM, shoul I assume my computer is toast?
 
Ok, I made a mistake. When I was measuring voltage this morning, I was measuring after the MPEM. I was measuring the hot wires from the MPEM to the rectifier. I have to find the hot wires before the MPEM. If I get good voltage before the MPEM, shoul I assume my computer is toast?

I'm at 32,000 feet right now, can't open the manual so I can't answer your question. Hopefully someone with specific knowledge will jump in and help.
 
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