I cant break impellor loose. It feels like im going to snap the housing

[peanut8474]

I have the back shaft in the vise and a huge cresent wrench on the impellor and trying to turn clock wise and its torqueing the whole housing and wont break free. What should i do ?

 

[roneagan@cfl.rr.com]

I use a 3 foot piece of pipe over a breaker bar and pull REALLY hard.. There is red lock tight on the threds so it takes a bit of force to get it loose..

 

[Chester]

Turn it counter clockwise.

Chester

 

[peanut8474]

I read that it was clock wise but i did try it counter clock wise also :0 and it did the exact same thing I just dont want to break the housing . There was some melting and wonder if something in there got so hot it kind of welded itself together ?

 

[peanut8474]

Im going to go try it counterclock wise

 

[peanut8474]

It didnt break loose going counter clock wise either and if I go much harder Im going to break the housing in half.

 

[peanut8474]

Does anyone have any ideas ? Can I heat the shaft without damaging the plastic housing I wouldnt think that i could but im not sure how the internals are in there

 

[RFoster130]

It is ok to heat it. Just dont overdo it. Heat the center of the shaft. Like 5 seconds with a propane torch should do it.

 

[LouDoo]

I'm pretty sure that Chester is right, it's counter clockwise.

I work at an auto dealership, I took mine to work and used an impact wrench. If you or somebody you know has impact tools you might try that.

Lou

 

[RFoster130]

I wouldnt use an impact. Its not the torque holding it. Its the loctite.

 

[peanut8474]

I have air impacts and huge electric impact Thank you for the idea but I think bad things are going to happen LOL but ive got to do something .I may have to heat and impact

 

[peanut8474]

Well i tried heat and my electric impact didnt work and Ive never had a bolt that didnt break loose with that impact. Im getting very frustrated and dont know what to do Ive been told counter clock wise and thats what ive been doing

 

[RFoster130]

I told ya, its not the torque holding it. It is loctite. Heat it and turn counter clockwise.

 

[peanut8474]

I did heat it with a propane torch and kind of scared to put the acetylene torch to it but I may try that. The impact I have is pretty wicked and weighs about 15-20 pounds and I put that on it right after heating

 

[peanut8474]

I dont know if there is a difference in removal direction from a 1990 sp and a 2004 GTI LE RFI but Im working on the 2004 GTI RFI ,not the 1990 sp thats in my watercraft profile

 

[bigJake]

from what I've read on other sites it looks like you have to heat the red loctite to over 300 degrees for it to break down, some cited 500. Anyway it sounds like you need to get it pretty hot.

 

[peanut8474]

ok I will try with an acetylene torch because im about to throw a temper tantrum

 

[bigJake]

well if it helps, it sounds like you got alot of moral support here. I think we have all found ourselves in similiar situations so are rooting for ya. Go get er. GIT ER DUN

 

[Dr Honda]

1) The housing shouldn't be getting tweaked at all since all the pressure is on impeller and the shaft.

2) The impeller threads are standard rotation. (CC from the top)

 

[peanut8474]

I tried the acetylene torch till it was glowing red on both ends and the impact still wouldnt get it off . I think im going to have to buy a whole new housing and impellor and wear ring. This is ridiculous

 

[peanut8474]

Let me get this straight. I have the back end of the pump housing ( opposite of impellor) in the vise and Im impacting the impellor tool end counter clockwise. Is this the correct way ?

 

[peanut8474]

Im wondering if the inside of the housing is aluminum and those bearings welded itself to the housing and the shaft and thats why it wont break free, because and loctite that would have been in there had to of burnt up as hot as I got it . If I cant get it , its going to be about 900 dollars to fix it with all new parts and new housing

 

[peanut8474]

I spent 6 hours trying to get it apart and 2 hours looking at internet on how this pump is put together and it baffles me why this wont break loose with everything I have tried.

 

[RFoster130]

Just find a used one. You should be able to get it for under $200 from someone here or off ebay.

 

[peanut8474]

I think I will do that thank you for the idea, but im going to get it apart whether I tear it up or not. I will cut the top of the impeller shaft off before I give up. I will at least get that impeller out. I can weld something to impeller shaft once I get it out to heat it and break it free, but it may ruin the housing