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Ruepappy

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I believe I lost a tooth on the flywheel on 07 rxp. How do you spin motor manually to get passed busted tooth??
 
If you can get access to the drive shaft, use a strap wrench. If not, remove the impeller and use an impeller removal tool.


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Pull the spark plugs first.....and uhm...why would you suspect you lost a tooth on the flywheel....and what exactly are you expecting to do once you are past the "missing" tooth?
 
Pull the spark plugs first.....and uhm...why would you suspect you lost a tooth on the flywheel....and what exactly are you expecting to do once you are past the "missing" tooth?

Starter just spins, does not engage. Pulled starter and looks fine. Voltage is fine under load...
 
Okay...I understand you have a starting prob. So what exactly are you gonna do when you turn the motor by hand...besides reinstalling the spark plugs? You gonna try to fire it up?...with a tooth missing on the flywheel? That tooth somewhere in the engine?
 
Okay...I understand you have a starting prob. So what exactly are you gonna do when you turn the motor by hand...besides reinstalling the spark plugs? You gonna try to fire it up?...with a tooth missing on the flywheel? That tooth somewhere in the engine?

I have a "pen tip" camera and was going to spin motor to see if I do have teeth missing on the flywheel but I can't get any light to see anything on the camera. I guess I'll start tearing down motor to get to pto housing to see if it is a flywheel, flywheel bolts, Bendix problem..?? What do you think? Easier just to pull the motor? Any info is greatly appreciated......
 
Pull the starter and put it in a vice; Apply 12 volts. The gear on the starter should not only spin, but it should extend and retract when you apply/disconnect power. If it doesn't extend, you need to replace/repair the starter. This is probably a starter problem.
 
Okay...sc'd or not? Doubt you're missing a tooth w/o somethin else bouncin around in there.
 
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Pull the starter and put it in a vice; Apply 12 volts. The gear on the starter should not only spin, but it should extend and retract when you apply/disconnect power. If it doesn't extend, you need to replace/repair the starter. This is probably a starter problem.

It does not extend and retract. Check your resources before you answer...
 
It does not extend and retract. Check your resources before you answer...

Ok,, a little politeness will go a long ways.

In reading above, you state the starter does not engage. I assume you stated this while the starter was installed. If you pull it and then hit i swith voltage, does the bendix kick out or ONLY spin. I beleive this is what he was trying to determine.
 
Ok,, a little politeness will go a long ways.

In reading above, you state the starter does not engage. I assume you stated this while the starter was installed. If you pull it and then hit i swith voltage, does the bendix kick out or ONLY spin. I beleive this is what he was trying to determine.
Only spins...
 
Then the issue is with ONLY your starter. It could be as simple as a rust ring on the shaft not allowing the bendix to kick out. I would take it apart and clean the shaft, then re-test it. Do NOT install a cheap aftermarket starter on the ski, they are JUNK and it will not last long.
 
I'm no expert on SD or starters but if it is suppose to spin & expand out AND it does only one of them then that is your problem.
It's best to have the OEM starter rebuilt instead of buying an off brand, (esp if it's made in china)
 
If yours spins well,, it officially does not need rebuilt from the aspect of the brushes. You at least need to clean the shaft as a rust ring will stop the bendix from kicking. You may need a bendix. I would replace the brush kit since you have it pulled. They are cheap and you just KNOW that if you don't, they will fail 2.5 days after you reinstall it...
 
Perhaps you should review this so you understand how a starter works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WD5Q_PF3pM

That video is not really relevant to the 4Tec starter.

The bendix is a separate assembly installed inside the PTO cover. The old two stroke starters had the bendix installed on the end of the starter shaft and when bench testing you could see the bendix throw the gear forward. If you have removed the starter and it spins with voltage then the next step is to remove the PTO cover and check the flywheel ring gear and starter bendix. It's easier to remove the PTO cover with the engine out of the ski.
 
I would rebuild the starter while it's out IF I didn't want to remove it again in a couple years. There are kits for rebuilding the original OEM starter, which are the best quality starter, some or many aftermarket starters are too cheaply made so keep your original and rebuild/repair it if possible, usually not too difficult.

If you're convinced it's in good condition after living in a wet bilge 7 years then I'd at least disassemble and relube the bearings/bushings and give the brushes a cleaning/measurement to spec.

And I agree, the bendix may be stuck or even the ring gear may be lose on the flywheel, I hear that's happened before.

Probably you should plan on removing the stator cover.
 
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