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found two bolts rolling free one in the back one in the front. the motor itself was fairly easy to move. figue it must have been a moto mount. decided to take off the housing that gards the drive shaft(??). sure enough one was tight one verry loss and the other two in my hand. slapped them back in but now i am not able to turn the shaft by hand, i only get maybe a 1/4 of a turn. SO my question is - is there a part thats behind that plate that had the 4 bolts that maybe now is out of position?
 
Sounds like the motor is way out of alignment. The proper way to correct would be removing the pump and aligning the motor with an alignment tool. For now you could loosen all 4 motor mounts and bump the starter to kinda align it temporarily and then tighten the mounts up.
This should work but you should align it the proper way asap to prevent any other issues.
Good luck
Jeff
 
If the motor was siezed u wouldnt be able to turn it by hand at all correct? The only reason i ask is because i have gone through verey little oil.
 
No you would not be able to turn it by hand if it were seized. Do you still have the oil injection system installed still? if so itll burn oil very slow, so it might be normal. To be sure if it is or isnt the motor loosen the mounts and try to spin the motor by hand with the plugs out to help. If still no luck, then you may want to remove the pump to see if the motor is or isnt locked up, otherwise thats an expensive assumption to make about the motor if it is the pump causing the problem.
Goodluck
Jeff
 
There was a known issue with motor mounts coming loose on the 97 XPs. They used too short of bolts originally. The replacement bolts were longer. Since you are having to deal with this issue, make sure to use the correct replacement bolts to prevent from having the same issue again.
 
is there a way to tell the bolts used? i can see the front mount, and not the rear but dont want any of that happening in the future!
 
the back ones are under the housing where your shaft meets your motor. undo the two nust, pull off the houseing and you should i believe feel 5 on the face of it and 1 on the flange on both sides. For myself never checked them untill now, one to many trips down a rough logging road lol. That same logging road ended up frying my battery, was wondering if that new battery wasn't fully charged would it also have the same effect?
 
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the whole whole story. OUt for a nice relaxing ride, then completly slows down and pics right back up again. As im headen back in a loud snap followed by sqweeling. got towed back in drained the baterry tryen to pin point where it was coming from, let the baterry charge on the truck for 45 min hooked it back up a few mins later battery started smoken, burnen hot, got it out. (up to this point still was turning over) Next day went and piced up a new battery, i asked the mech about what would cause this bat to burn up, happens all the time he said due to the real rough condition of the logging road, plates in the bat shift yadda yadda. I had called the day before if he had bats ready to go that were charged the reply was ya. but watched him pull one out of the box and waited another 35 min before leaven. im thinken all it got was a 30 min charge. Stuck the new bat in, but now all i was getten was a faint click,I by passed the relay stator/selinoid and it turned over. took a 3 hour drive and got a new one. went to put the bat back in and found a large bolt back by the bat (still turning over at this point). figured it came from the front and what had caused the loud snap, it had shot from the front to back. As i was feeling around in the front i found another one, they matched the motor mounts. popped of the hosing where the driveshaft meets the motor sure enough i was missing two, the two in my hand. Sweet prob fixed --new bat, new sparkplugs, new relaystator, all connections scrubbed clean good to go. gently wiggled the motor back n forth to make sure bolts went in nice n easy, hit the start and CLUNCK *&^^$%*(^%( . My Q is ---Is it possible that a washer or two could have jammed in somewhere between the shaft and motor, all i get is about a 1/4 of a turn when turnen by hand.
 
realignment, would the prob with it slowing down picking up again just before it went completly dead be caused by that as well or could there be another underlying prob liker a fuel issue. i was also wondering do you need a specific tool other than the realignment kit from say SBT, I seem to recall a specific seadoo type wrench/key. thanks for ur inputs, i'm learning as i go here, except havnt had the same prob yet lol, always something different
 
just a second thought, i was doing the work in the water, could something gut sucked up in the jetpump? If so, would the best course of action to take is remove the pump and if thats not it continue takeing it apart. thanks for the input
 
i had a similar problem with mine, with the samei thought it was the starter , removed the starter, i put my fingers in the hole to check the flywheel teeth, and i was able to spin the fly wheel with my finger. I then pulled the front magneto cover and discovered the flywheel had broken clean off the bolts,( not sheared but the center of the flywheel broken off the center hub in a perfect circle) i would pull the spark plugs then try and turn it by hand, to see if i will rotate.
 
The motor mounts also have shims .To adjust the motor alignment.If they are in the bilge,the motor will be misaligned.
 
i only get about a 1/4 turn wen the plugs are out. what does that mean any help would be great. i would like to try and clear up any easy solutions before i get involved with the more indepth stuff
 
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Take the pump off and see if the motor turns freely, see if the pump turns free. If both turn free the motor is out of alignment.

Added: Or a bent drive shaft.

Lou
 
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i've exposed it, spark plugs are out, but can only get about a 1/4 turn. any additional tips? plus the rubber seal shoud be replced by the looks of correct? its prob time that the whole unit be redone. is there a full kit out there with all the parts included or is it a one by one deal.
 

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the one on the left comes up higher than the right but i am still getting about a 1/4 of a turn. is this a sighn of it being seized?
 

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First thing to do, pull starter out, plugs out and try to turn it. Post back. Trust me on this one, starter is only 3 bolts start easy.

I went thru a lot of bs before finding out it was the starter. Don't worry about anything else until you pull the starter!
 
thanks guys will try that first thing in the morn. the starter not the relay (solinoid) correct. where is it located on a 97 xp cant seem to find it. could it be under the air box on the carbs?
 
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Yes the starter. Sounds similar to what I had, chunk and nothing, couldn't turn it by hand only a quarter. The gear was gone. Once out it turned no problem with the plugs out.

Sorry I don't know where on your machine. Get the manual, or someone here might be able to tell you.
 
would the stater be where the red cable is?
 

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would the stater be where the red cable is?

The starter is located on the starboard (right side) of the engine, toward the forward part of the engine, under the carbs., just follow the big red wire from the rear E-Box.

Lou
 
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