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96 GTX Engine full of Oil

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daddydune

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Hi guys, just got a 96 GTX and it has been sitting for a year or so. Tried to start it and would not crank over. Pulled the plugs and tried and oil shot out the plug holes! lots of oil.
I thought maybe the previous owner filled it for storage. Well Trying to get oil out and not make a mess, I drilled out two spark plugs, put clear tubing in and ran tube into a container.
Crank it and pumped out like a quart of oil. Oil just keeps coming out.

Can the oil pump be stuck open and dumping mass quantities of oil into the cylinders?
Thanks.
 
no, either your oil seals are really bad or just from sitting, the journal area filled up because the oil seeped past the seals. Keep cranking til ALL is out
 
:agree:


The center seals will leak, on an engine with a little time on it, when it sits for a while.

What I recommend is to get a fresh set of plugs, and a can of starter fluid. Spray a little down each hole, and put in the pugs. Then, spray some in the carbs... and try to fire it. You will only get a second or two of cranking before the plugs get wet with oil... but if you can get the starter fluid to fire... it will burn out the oil. I just did this to a ski last week.

LET ME ADD THIS....

I do not recommend starter fluid on a 2-stroke nomaly... but when the engine is half full of oil, it's ok.


Last thing... if you crank it for more than a second or two... pull the plugs, and clean them off with a little carb cleaner, and compressed air. Then, spray a little more starter fluid in the engine. It will eventually catch, and the oil will get purged. Oh... and don't let any one stand behind the ski. It's going to puke oil out, and make a mess.

Good luck
 
Look at the oil tank level. Next time it sits put a hose pincher on the oil line. :)

Don't ruin your new driveway when you try the startup.
 
Thanks guys. I tried to crank it with plugs in but there is still too much oil and it won't crank over. I crank for a few seconds and let it rest. Don't want to burn out the starter.
The oil tank sitting higher than the oil pump so the seal in the oil pump is bad and allowing the oil to just drain into the engine through the little hoses into the intake manifold? or is there other seals?

I tried to put a little fuel in the cylinder to thin the oil and pump it out. Not sure it's working. Even with one plug in it won't crank. Maybe battery is too weak when plugs are in? I better check that next.

More cranking today.
 
yeah, leave the plugs out, pinch the 2-lines going to the motor...bottom of tank, and keep cranking...then you can remove the airlid, pour some gas down onto the flame arrestor, make sure your plug wires are grounded to the post, and keep cranking. Once rags are dry, then ijnstall plugs, and try to get her fired up..dont forget to unpinch the hoses though.
 
Just got back to looking at this issue. Question on the oil lines, there is one line with what looks like a filter going to the front of the engine. ( I assume the oil pump) and another one coming from the bottom of the oil tank to a spot on the side of the engine just under the carbs. What's this other line for?

Thanks.
 
that lines', the oil in question. That feeds the rv assy, which needs constant supply. Pull plugs, get a few rags, and cover plug holes and crank away, til all is dispersed. Re-install plugs, and try to fire it.
 
The one without the filter is where the excess is sent back to the tank from the rotary valve driveshaft - this is where the seals tend to seep on an older machine, this is normal in the begining of each season if you fill the oil tank up for storage, it will slowly leak into the crankshaft air cavity and then when the piston goes down the oil comes up - or water if you sink your ski at some other time, so keep rolling the motor over to work out the oil and for right now do not add anything more to the oil tank, as Tony mentioned ether is a no-no except when you have ample piston lubrication which you obviously have there, if you have old clothes put them at the back of the body and like they all said beware that when it starts up you will see a lot of colored smoke as the oil is burnt away, like an old city bus in the morning, but they do it every morning. After you get the motor running for a few minutes then add 1/4 tank of oil and mark the tank to see if the motor drinks normally while you use 5-8 gallons 40-1 premix gas to insure some piston/crank lube is going on a regular basis as you get this closer to long riding days.
 
Maybe that's it. The RV seals are bad and letting oil into the crank case. I did not pinch off that hose. I'll do that next and keep cranking.
Thanks for your information and knowledge.
 
I had the same problem today. Finally cranked it all out. The question I have is, is it safe to ride this way and just pinch off the lines after riding? Labor Day weekend coming up and I was looking forward to riding this weekend, then tear into this winter. Thanks!
 
Can I turn my 95 GTX into a pre-mix ski and do away with the oil system and eliminate this problem? If so, how? Thanks
 
I think it would be safe to ride. It most likely is when it sets that the oil slowly leaks into the crank case.
I cranked at least a half gallon out of my engine before I could get it to start. After that it started every time.

As for going pre-mix, I don't know. That oil line going to the rotory valve is large and also feeds the crank.
Do the racers pull the oilier off?
 
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