2006 Sportster Adding Siphon Bailers

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Hi guys.

I installed the automatic siphon bailing system on my 2006 Sportster 150. I didn't see a write-up on this, so figured I'd give back to the community. :)

I bought this boat with a blown engine. Had to rebuild the motor and the jet pump, carbon seal and all that.

While I had it apart I noticed these boats don't have the Siphon bailing system. I live in Hawaii, so this boat has to deal with rough water, surf, and salt. The rust in the engine compartment was pretty bad from all the salt water splashing around in the hull. So, I decided to install a siphon bailing system.

The siphon bailing system does a really good job of pumping all the water out. In the salt water environment this is important to keep it from splashing around on the motor and engine compartment components. The automatic electric bilge pump requires quite a lot of water in the hull before it turns on. The Siphon Bailers on the other hand are sucking all the water out anytime the engine is running.

This system also has the ability to pump out a large volume of water which is important when playing in rough water and surf. As long as the engine is running you're not gonna sink with this system installed!

To install this system all I needed to buy was two siphon tubes, a set of used siphon bailer screen and hoses (with one-way valves), and two NPT hose barb fittings. Total cost was $40.

Remove pump. Drill from outside with the largest bit that will fit the black plastic hole. Then drill from the inside with the correct size bit for the NPT fitting. For me this was a 1/2" bit. Stop when it gets to the plastic. The NPT hose barb fittings self tap into the fiberglass making a strong and water tight installation.

Then you just have to hammer the siphon tubes into the pump venturi. I put a Philips screwdriver in the Siphon tube and used that as a tool to hammer them in. It's a pressed fit. No need to glue them in.

Install some orings and reinstall the pump. When running the hoses I suggest hose clamping the hose to the brass hose barb and to the one-way valve because if they came off your boat would take on water. Zip tie the hose elbows (yellow part) up as high as possible. These elbows have a small hole in them. This is to allow some air in as a "siphon break" so that water can not Siphon back into the boat. Make sure this hole isn't clogged. I suggest buying the bailer screen hose set from a year that used the one way valves (the grey plastic part). This is a second layer of protection to make sure water will never flow backwards into the boat. Blow through them to make sure they aren't clogged, and blow the other way to make sure the one way valve is working.

The bailer screens are attached with a metal bracket. I didn't want to buy these so I just zip tied the screens in place. I put one under the back of the motor by the shaft which is where I notice water accumulate as the lowest spot at slow speeds. I put the second one farther back where the water accumulates when the bow is pitched up.

See pictures. Lmk if you have any questions.
 

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When I bought my Speedster this year, I had a leak in the exhaust can. It took be over a month to figure out where it was coming from.

Like you mentioned, the design is poor for the location of the bilge pump as well as the elevation of the engine. The engine is sitting in water before the pump is activated. It also can't get out a good portion of the water which as you mentioned ends up all over he engine.

After I found my leak I am dry now but have been out on rough days where if you pull back the throttle, you ill take waves over the bow.

I can imagine that is not a rare occasion based on your playground
 
When I bought my Speedster this year, I had a leak in the exhaust can. It took be over a month to figure out where it was coming from.

Like you mentioned, the design is poor for the location of the bilge pump as well as the elevation of the engine. The engine is sitting in water before the pump is activated. It also can't get out a good portion of the water which as you mentioned ends up all over he engine.

After I found my leak I am dry now but have been out on rough days where if you pull back the throttle, you ill take waves over the bow.

I can imagine that is not a rare occasion based on your playground

Thank you.

Yes. The factory setup is a terrible bilge pump location! I fully expect to swamp my passenger compartment. Water will then leak through the floor hatch while it slowly drains out the cockpit drain. These Siphon Bailers should keep up with that no problem!

I also installed a 30 gallon per minute centrifugal pump to get the water out of the passenger compartment quickly!

I'll be playing in the surf, towing surfers and foil boarders. I just gotta try not to capsize! :) You think two guys could right a capsized sportster 150?
 

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Due to the width and weight and no leverage like a keel or mast, if you turtle it.....I doubt it will be rightable.

Yea. This thing is pretty heavy. I did the test run to a secluded beach with just the girlfriend and dog and in the excitement I ran it up on the sand about one boat length. And then immediately realized what I had done! Sh!t!!!! It was all I could do with the girlfriends help, and timing the waves to get it back in the water! So stupid. I thought for a minute we were screwed! :crazy:
 
Yea. This thing is pretty heavy. I did the test run to a secluded beach with just the girlfriend and dog and in the excitement I ran it up on the sand about one boat length. And then immediately realized what I had done! Sh!t!!!! It was all I could do with the girlfriends help, and timing the waves to get it back in the water! So stupid. I thought for a minute we were screwed! :crazy:
Man you lucked out.

I have 3 anchors and between 2 to 3 of them, I will not let my boat touch bottom. I use my main anchor on the way in and drop it on the way to the shore. The use the anchor bag or smaller anchor on the shore.

One rock in the sand is all it takes to put an asswhoppin on the gelcoat of the hull.
 
Man you lucked out.

I have 3 anchors and between 2 to 3 of them, I will not let my boat touch bottom. I use my main anchor on the way in and drop it on the way to the shore. The use the anchor bag or smaller anchor on the shore.

One rock in the sand is all it takes to put an asswhoppin on the gelcoat of the hull.
Hi.

I hear ya. If my boat was perfect I'd probably worry about scratches in the gelcoat too. But, this thing is pretty beat up already, but structurally it's sound.

Beaching is safe as long as one follows precautions to prevent sand clogging the cooling system, and be careful not to suck anything up with the jet pump. Just gotta be careful to not get stuck up on the sand!

For me, fiberglass work isn't too hard if the bottom ends up with a deep gouge.
 
Thanks for the detailed info Flightjunkie. I'm also trying to keep saltwater from sloshing around eng compartment. Agree about poor bilge pump placement. Have you looked at a low profile bilge pump? Looks like this Whale pump might fit. WhaleLowProfileBP.png I'm interested in your Jabsco pump setup if you have more pics. Thanks again for the info, been trying to figure this out for a while.
 
Thanks for the detailed info Flightjunkie. I'm also trying to keep saltwater from sloshing around eng compartment. Agree about poor bilge pump placement. Have you looked at a low profile bilge pump? Looks like this Whale pump might fit. View attachment 52528 I'm interested in your Jabsco pump setup if you have more pics. Thanks again for the info, been trying to figure this out for a while.

Hi.

Thank you for the kind words.

I'm not familiar with that particular whale pump. But, most of these pump types don't do a very good job of getting the last few inches of water out, and they don't turn on until it's even deeper.

As far as the Jabsco pump for the passenger compartment. It's a low pressure high flow pump. This is what's needed to move a large volume of water. It's rated at 30 gallons per minute! These pumps are not self priming so they must be mounted below water level. You can see how I hooked it up in the picture I posted. I installed a thru-hull next to the bilge pump thru-hull for the out flow so it's easy to see from the drivers seat. Hope that information helps. I just wired it into the blower for now because it was quick and easy. When I turn the blower on they both run. I have a marine switch with a rubber boot I plan to install for this pump.

Lmk if I can answer any more questions. :)
 
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