2006 RXT DESS Key and Safety Switch

[daleverdedale21]

Bought the ski about a year ago and took it to the dealer this weekend for the 50 hour service.
I usually crank it up every now and then just to get it running when I don't use it but before taking it to the dealer i put on the key and i got no beeps and th dash didn't read anything. It seemed to be completely dead.
I told the dealer to check out the problem and got an unpleasant call from them today saying the electrical system is dirty and they are going to have to replace the key along with the safety switch and want to charge me an amount I really don't want to pay them.
Any ideas here? Anyone had a similar problem before?
I am thinking it might not be such a severe problem yet it's a sure way for the dealer to make some $$$ off of me.
But i am no expert when it comes to trouble shooting these things.
I'd appreciate any insight at all before I give in to the dealer and tell them to go ahead and rip me off.

 

[daleverdedale21]

Still stuck on this issue. Delaer said I needed to clean electrical system and install a new DESS switch (safety switch).
Anyone gone through this that can tell me if it's something I can buy and change out. I just don't know where to start.
Thanks in advance!

 

[sporsterjoel]

OK your 100% sure the battery wasnt dead? and also did you try cleaning the post and the dess key? if the key and or post is dirty it can cause the dess ket to not connect with the computer. also check the post and make sure its not lose or anything.....

 

[daleverdedale21]

Thanks for he reply! :cheers:
Positive on the battery being good. I tested it and so did the dealer.
Cleaned both DESS key and post. The dealer's diagnosis was that it needed a new safety switch. I just want to know if it's something rather simple to do. I have a diagram of it but never fixed anything like it.

 

[cut'n ride]

Changing the post is easy. You'll need to remove the 5.5 mm screws located on the bottom side of your handlebar trim and remove the lower portion. It kinda snaps under your start stop switch; so, you'll have to do a little bit of pulling... But, don't worry, you wont break anything. Now you'll have access to the post. Remove the plastic lock ring with some pliers or anything else... you may need to use a little punch(or flat head screwdriver) and a hammer to get it turning. Unthread it the rest of the way by hand. You'll now have to splice in the wiring of your new post(4 wires) and either solder and heatshrink or use heatshrink solderless crimps(waterproof of course). Your old key should be fine... But, if you need a new one, you'll have to get it programmed at the dealer. Easy job... should take you 20 minutes tops.

 

[daleverdedale21]

thanks for the insight :cheers:
i'm going to be ordering the post online. got a website already but any one you might reccommend?

 

[cut'n ride]

Hold off a day or two and I may be able to sell you a brand new post for cheap. I'm having problems out of my 2003 Gtx (which has the same post) that are probably not being caused by a post; but, I'm going to give a new one a try. If it doesn't fix my problem, I'll ship it to you for 75% of cost.

 

[sporsterjoel]

also did you check all the fuses???? and here is some info kustomkarl gave me when i had a problem with my post.


Common problem...like 40 post a week...
I would start by cleaning the Post on the safety lanyard. It is beeping and saying it isn't connecting to the Mpem, (Multi Purpose Electronic Module) It needs to beep 2 times to let you know it is ready to start. Clean the post and cap with soapy water. Don't use any grease of lubricant on it as it needs a clean connection to make contact. Connect the lanyard to see if it is making a connection. 2 beeps and it's ready to fire up.

Here is the next step if it still gives you trouble before you replace the post.
Engine start/stop switch verification;
Disconnect the Yellow/Red wire of the start/stop switch. Using an ohmmeter, connect test probes to the Yellow/Red wire and to ground. Measure resistance, it must be an open circuit (switch is normally open). Depress and hold switch, the ohmmeter should read close to “0” ohm.

Safety Lanyard Switch Verification;
If 2 short beeps are not heard when installing the safety lanyard, disconnect the switch wires.
Safety lanyard removed;
connect the test probes to switch Black and Black/Yellow wires. It’s an open circuit, there should be no continuity.
Connect one test probe to the White/Gray wire and the other test probe to the switch terminal. Measure resistance, it should be “0” ohm. Connect one test probe to the Black wire and the other test probe to the switch ring. Measure resistance, it must be close to “0” ohm.
Safety lanyard on switch; connect the probes to switch Black and Black /Yellow wires. Measure resistance, it must be “0” ohm.
Timer Verification;
The timer is integrated into the MPEM. Always confirm that the fuses are in good condition. To confirm operation of timer, remove the safety lanyard from switch. After 5 seconds delay, depress start/stop button once. The timer should stay on for 33 seconds (for example, the gauge(s) will be activated) and than turn off.

I hope this helps...let me know how you make out.
Karl

 

[daleverdedale21]

Thanks a lot. I'm going to take this on over the weekend.
Waiting on "cut'n ride" to let me know if he would have a spare dess post to go on with the repair. I'll post the results
:cheers: