Won't start

[costaricataz]

Greetings everyone,
Was going skiing today but it want start. Last time I used it everything was fine. Hosed it down etc. started OK when finished 2 weeks ago. Today when I connect the lynard no beeps of any kind. The inst. panel lights up then goes blank. Tried it serveral times and same problem. When I push starter button 5 times I get nothing. Anyone else had this problem?
2006 Wake Edition.

 

[kustomkarl]

Does the battery have a full charge on it? DON'T jump start if it doesn't, because it will spike the electrical system and cause more electrical problems.
Disconnect the connections and take the battery out if you can and give it a charge. Charge it in a well ventilated area. Than give it a try ...I think that is you problem. If you still have this problem let us know and I'm sure you get a quick response.
Karl

 

[costaricataz]

Does the battery have a full charge on it? DON'T jump start if it doesn't, because it will spike the electrical system and cause more electrical problems.
Disconnect the connections and take the battery out if you can and give it a charge. Charge it in a well ventilated area. Than give it a try ...I think that is you problem. If you still have this problem let us know and I'm sure you get a quick response.
Karl

Took the battery out to charge. Will have it tested tomorrow.
Will let you know.
Thanks for your help
Paul

 

[kustomkarl]

Do you have anyway to test it you self? If there is an auto parts store near by thay could load test it for you. You could just stick it on a charger and charge it anyway...it couldn't hurt. Keep us posted.

Karl

 

[seadoosnipe]

Salt water!....

In Costa Rica, I'll assume your pretty much a salt water rider. With you not having any beeps when connecting your lanyard cap, it is one of a coulple things. First, do like Karl suggest on your battery......if the battery turns out to have a good charge or you charge it, make sure all your contact points are clean and free of corrosion. Make sure you have a good earth ground.
The other thing common with the DESS lanyard cap, is salt. Salt is a great conductor of electricity. Because the lanyard cap has a ROM chip enbedded in it and the salt deposits can effect the electrical current through the cap, you need to keep it clean with warm soapy water on a routine basis. Do not use any electrical cleaning solvents. Just warm soapy water.
And lastly, you said your gages came on before going blank. Because you didn't get the two audible beeps to recognize the rom....This is your problem, but when you get power, check your info center for any "P" codes.......
Good luck!......

 

[costaricataz]

In Costa Rica, I'll assume your pretty much a salt water rider. With you not having any beeps when connecting your lanyard cap, it is one of a coulple things. First, do like Karl suggest on your battery......if the battery turns out to have a good charge or you charge it, make sure all your contact points are clean and free of corrosion. Make sure you have a good earth ground.
The other thing common with the DESS lanyard cap, is salt. Salt is a great conductor of electricity. Because the lanyard cap has a ROM chip enbedded in it and the salt deposits can effect the electrical current through the cap, you need to keep it clean with warm soapy water on a routine basis. Do not use any electrical cleaning solvents. Just warm soapy water.
And lastly, you said your gages came on before going blank. Because you didn't get the two audible beeps to recognize the rom....This is your problem, but when you get power, check your info center for any "P" codes.......
Good luck!......

Charged battery, load test OK. Now nothing works. Used new extra key I had made when I bought the ski. Checked connections and ground and they are OK.
Checked main fuses and they are OK.
Any suggestions? It is almost impossible to get someone here in Costa Rica to work on it that knows anymore than I do.
Thanks
Paul

 

[seadoosnipe]

Don't give up just yet!

Paul, don't give up just yet!....your just getting started on the learning curve. Have a little patience.
You said you have nothing, correct? And now, your also saying the batter has a good charge and the load test is good.
So that leaves us in only one area that can be the problem. The DESS cap and/or post.
Let me know if this is correct. When you put your cap on, you get nothing? No beeps, no gages, nothting? O.K..........one more question. Do you know how to use a multi meter? If so, we can do a ohm test on the DESS post.
It's obvious that your not making a connection. Because, even if the mpem is bad, there are a set of beeps to confirm that you have a problem. Even if you try to start the ski with a different DESS lanyard, you'll have beeps. So the problem is that your power system in the lanyard is not being enegized. The likely problem is going to be in the post if you've used a spare key and got the same results.
I'll look in the manual and get the info as to what your results should be for that test.....

O.K.,Paul, I got the test for your post. If you don't know how to read a multi meter, you've got to know an electrician friend that can help you. A shop will charge you out the yang-yang to trouble shoot this. You'll need to find the plug on the bottom end of your post and undo it. If it's easier, you can remove it. For me, it was easier to remove. A pwc, I'm not to sure. But you'll need to get to the 3 wires.
Test 1: with the cap off, put the tester wires on the black wire and the black/yellow wire. The circuit should show "open" at 68*F.
Test 2: with the cap off, put the tester wires on the grey to the post terminal (the little metal button on top of the post). The circuit should show a reading close to 0.
Test 3: with the cap off, put the tester wires on the black wire to the post ring (the little metal ring around the post). The circuit should show a reading close to 0.
Test 4: with the key ON the post, put the tester wires on the black wire and the black/yellow wire. The circuit should show a reading close to 0.

There you have it. Let us know what the results of this test is, then we'll go from there. Have a little patience, it may save you a bundle.........

 

[costaricataz]

Thanks for the help. I will be gone for the next two days. When I return I will run the test and let you know the results. Thanks so much for your help.
Paul

 

[costaricataz]

Paul, don't give up just yet!....your just getting started on the learning curve. Have a little patience.
You said you have nothing, correct? And now, your also saying the batter has a good charge and the load test is good.
So that leaves us in only one area that can be the problem. The DESS cap and/or post.
Let me know if this is correct. When you put your cap on, you get nothing? No beeps, no gages, nothting? O.K..........one more question. Do you know how to use a multi meter? If so, we can do a ohm test on the DESS post.
It's obvious that your not making a connection. Because, even if the mpem is bad, there are a set of beeps to confirm that you have a problem. Even if you try to start the ski with a different DESS lanyard, you'll have beeps. So the problem is that your power system in the lanyard is not being enegized. The likely problem is going to be in the post if you've used a spare key and got the same results.
I'll look in the manual and get the info as to what your results should be for that test.....

O.K.,Paul, I got the test for your post. If you don't know how to read a multi meter, you've got to know an electrician friend that can help you. A shop will charge you out the yang-yang to trouble shoot this. You'll need to find the plug on the bottom end of your post and undo it. If it's easier, you can remove it. For me, it was easier to remove. A pwc, I'm not to sure. But you'll need to get to the 3 wires.
Test 1: with the cap off, put the tester wires on the black wire and the black/yellow wire. The circuit should show "open" at 68*F.
Test 2: with the cap off, put the tester wires on the grey to the post terminal (the little metal button on top of the post). The circuit should show a reading close to 0.
Test 3: with the cap off, put the tester wires on the black wire to the post ring (the little metal ring around the post). The circuit should show a reading close to 0.
Test 4: with the key ON the post, put the tester wires on the black wire and the black/yellow wire. The circuit should show a reading close to 0.

There you have it. Let us know what the results of this test is, then we'll go from there. Have a little patience, it may save you a bundle.........

Test Results,
1 = 0
2 = 0
3 = 0
4 = open
The first two times I did test #1 I got a reading of 14.2. then the last time it was 0 and the display started lighting up again when the key was put on. No "P" codes I could see.
Thanks
Paul

 

[seadoosnipe]

Test.....

Paul, it looks like your post has flunked out on the first test but an electrician I am not. KustomKarl works alot with electricity, wait till he comes in and takes a look at your results. He's more qualified than I on interpretation of your results........I'm pretty much mechanical..........
I'd hope for the post, least cost in repair and it's a do it yourself item.
Your first result in test one doesn't show an open circuit and the result in number 4 should show close to a zero, so it seems to me that the post is bad. But wait for Karl, he may have more input as to what I'm seeing..........

 

[kustomkarl]

Paul, I have a busy day at work today , but tomorrow I hope to have some free time to sit down and give you some ideas on what to do with the electrical problem your having. I'll try to post in the morning or tonight if I can get some free time on my hands, to give it a little thought...

Karl

 

[costaricataz]

Thanks Guys and I really appreciate your efforts to help.
Paul

 

[seadoosnipe]

Bad.....

Paul, after going over your readings again, it does appear that your post is bad. Look at the first test. It's suppose to be open and your showing "O" and on test 4, your suppose to have an open circuit and your showing a "0". I'd try and clean that post cap up a little and clean your wires up, especially if you see a little white corrosion, you could be loosing your contact. Then, use some die-electric grease.
If you can't get any beeps and have to replace the cap, you can look up your part number by going to www.seadoo.com. From there, you can come back into our home page and look for an online parts distributer and order it. You may also check with your local Sea-Doo dealer and see what they'll charge you for it. I'd compare prices before buying it. Your dealer there may have a 300% mark-up.
I'm 99% sure that will be your problem. No beeps mean no communication from the lanyard key.

 

[costaricataz]

Thanks SeaDoosnipe,
Ilooked up the part 278001734 but can not find a online parts dist. on your home page.I would like to order from a supporter of this form.
Thanks
Paul

 

[seadoosnipe]

hmmmmmmmmm.....

Your right, for some reason, I can't find them either. Your part cost $87 dollars plus shipping.
The online distributer most of us use in the forum is www.babbittsonline.com. I will look into the reason the link is no longer there. If you have any problems to ordering due to your location, please let me know and I'll be more than happy to help.

 

[costaricataz]

Up date, I ordered a new post and had it sent to a friend in the states. I will be going there in April to visit so when I get back I will let you know how it worked.Here in Costa Rica at the dealer they wan't $225 vs $90.
Having it sent to Costa Rica is to expensive and you may get it you may not.
Thanks
Paul

 

[seadoosnipe]

Expensive....

Wow, that's a high dollar item!.......The same is true for our Australia members. They have to pay out the yang-yang for parts too!.....Maybe I'm in the wrong business. I should open an international parts store.
I'm sure some of the distributers over here ship internationally.....
Let me know how you make out!.......or it there is any other problems. I'm banking on that post as your problem. With all the posting and your tests, that the direction its been pointing to........keep in touch and remember, disconnect the battery to do any electrical work.