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Which would you choose.?
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tom scheidecker
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Check on the forum as to problems with that year, (sodium valves, SC rebuild, ect.) but my vote is buy as much juice as you can. It costs a lot to upgrade for more power/speed later.
Your refering to the 2004?
I think after long thinking I want the 2007. I know everyone like speed and power. But my other jetski is not SC. And we'll after the initial race, we might be done and we just cruise together. Also don't like the 100h rebuild right now, and what I hear about.
Or am I missing something? I have the opportunity to buy a 215 and 255, but it's the SC problem with washer I read and a rebuild every 2 years or 100 hours.
I think after long thinking I want the 2007. I know everyone like speed and power. But my other jetski is not SC. And we'll after the initial race, we might be done and we just cruise together. Also don't like the 100h rebuild right now, and what I hear about.
Or am I missing something? I have the opportunity to buy a 215 and 255, but it's the SC problem with washer I read and a rebuild every 2 years or 100 hours.
Night and day difference between the skis, from the hulls to the engines...
If you want the least potential issues specific to the skis you listed, buy the 2007.
2004 to mid 2006 have sodium filled exhaust valves that are know to fail. Answer: Replace with slid core.
2004 to 2007 SC had ceramic washers, based on the age alone, they should have been replaced already. But,,, without paper work proving so, you simply will not know and you need to pull the SC and look at it.
I own a 2009 RXT-X 255 and LOVE the ski,, So for me, I would be looking for a newer option compared to what you listed so I could enjoy the SC and not have other issues such as the valves..
If you want the least potential issues specific to the skis you listed, buy the 2007.
2004 to mid 2006 have sodium filled exhaust valves that are know to fail. Answer: Replace with slid core.
2004 to 2007 SC had ceramic washers, based on the age alone, they should have been replaced already. But,,, without paper work proving so, you simply will not know and you need to pull the SC and look at it.
I own a 2009 RXT-X 255 and LOVE the ski,, So for me, I would be looking for a newer option compared to what you listed so I could enjoy the SC and not have other issues such as the valves..
Spimothy Leary
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I would only buy the GTX if you plan on having passengers on a regular basis.
Otherwise, its a no brainger... 07.
Otherwise, its a no brainger... 07.
Hawk388
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So with your comment, do you actually have a recommendation or are you just here to be negative?
red2blue
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That's the great thing about opinions...like azzholes...everyone's got one.
By stating that both ski's...imho...are under powered...the obvious..(at least to me)...alternative, would be to keep looking.
The rxp....two seater...nimble...fun...and will be outgrown the second weekend it's on the water. With the motor that's in it...no real way to make it faster...ie...waste of time and money. Again...jmho.
As for the 185, the better of the two...but still...imho...under powered. Oh you can get it to 70 w/o breaking the bank...if you like to turn a wrench. But why not hunt a lil longer and get at least a 215?
Again....my opinion. My riding style and habits aren't those of most of the readers on this board. Not their fault.
Just speaking for myself personally....riding along next to grampa's pontoon is not how I spend my time on the water. To each their own.
Fair enough....Hawk?
My gtx does 68mph without any mods, it's a great all around machine for 185 hp it's very impressive. I also love my 215 rxp and it does 70mph with no mods. 2mph not a deal breaker if I were shopping for 1 machine. If you have one machine and friends or family members who want to do more than sit on the shore and watch the gtx is a great buy, people can wakeboard, ski,even tube behind it for a really great day on the water time after time. Since the speed limit on most the lakes where I live is 68mph or less ,unless you dream about being a big time Racer... both of these have Plenty O Power. Just my personal experience. Best of luck with your shopping.
red2blue
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I wouldn't put your paycheck on that dream-o-meter.
Spimothy Leary
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FWIW I don't believe either are underpowered, and this is coming from a guy with a 255 with mods.
my first ski topped out a 49, I thought i was flying, had a blast
2nd topped out at 54, I thought I was flying, had a blast
didn't cross 60 until my 3rd year of riding, took 7 years to cross 70 still having a blast. (and, no I won't go back to a 50mph ski)
Priority #1 is clean, reliable model that is well suited for the rider and the ride spots. If the rider desires more after a full season on the water and has the money, then they can upgrade.
oh... and ya... a gtx 185 isn't a 68mph ski....no sir....not even close
if it is, I wasted a chit load of money on my ski.
my first ski topped out a 49, I thought i was flying, had a blast
2nd topped out at 54, I thought I was flying, had a blast
didn't cross 60 until my 3rd year of riding, took 7 years to cross 70 still having a blast. (and, no I won't go back to a 50mph ski)
Priority #1 is clean, reliable model that is well suited for the rider and the ride spots. If the rider desires more after a full season on the water and has the money, then they can upgrade.
oh... and ya... a gtx 185 isn't a 68mph ski....no sir....not even close
if it is, I wasted a chit load of money on my ski.
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red2blue
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No one's getting in a pissing match. Why can't people disagree, speak their mind without someone else taking sht personal? My lake has no speed limit. Fact is... short of a no wake zone...( from the OBX to Minn to St Pete to SML) I've never been restricted. We're all just speaking on personal experience. Maybe you do got a couple golden skis. Personally I've never heard of a 185 cracking 63....ever...without mods...in over 10 yrs. But maybe you're right...maybe I talk too much.
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Hawk388
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That was a pretty well thought out response man. Kudos to you!
Spimothy Leary
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I tend to agree with R2B on this, if your gtx 185 does 68 on gps, then either
a) you have the fastest stock gtx 185 on the planet
b) your gps is wrong.
c) ???
Perhaps there is a C out there that i'm not aware of, but gun to my head if somebody asked me top speed on a gtx 185, then I wouldn't hesitate to say 62-63 absolute MAX. (actually my first instinct would be to say 60, but i'm adding 3mph for leeway)
now, I still don't think its underpowered, but everyone is allowed an opinion, and I'm ok with his opinion that a buyer should hold out for a 215/255 model for long term happiness. I don't think its a must, since many many people would be very happy with a 155/185 model, as I mentioned above, i didn't cross 60mph until I had been riding for years, but keep in mind, back then, 2 strokes were more prevalent, these days 60 is pretty slow depending on who you ride with.
Given the choice of the two listed by the OP: I chose the 07 155 rxp over the 04 185 gtx because I'd expect they'd perform very close overall, and the rxp is a bit more fun to ride. the only caveat I added was that if its going to be regularly used with passengers, then the gtx is more practical, it will comfortably hold two riders (3 is a stretch but do-able) and has tons of storage.
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lamajama
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I have a 185 stock and top I've done according to speedo is about 61-62 on a glass lake.
I might be able to go faster if I was 100 lbs lighter (extremely unlikely...), running on
empty and going downhill but 68 stock is....wow.
I did do "66" on my old 98 GSX 951. That was fast enough on that hull.
I'd suggest you keep in mind that even if you could do 70 that doing 70 just means
you have to plan rides between gas pumps. I would imagine that doing that speed
would be extremely infrequent. Otherwise up you gas card max.
I might be able to go faster if I was 100 lbs lighter (extremely unlikely...), running on
empty and going downhill but 68 stock is....wow.
I did do "66" on my old 98 GSX 951. That was fast enough on that hull.
I'd suggest you keep in mind that even if you could do 70 that doing 70 just means
you have to plan rides between gas pumps. I would imagine that doing that speed
would be extremely infrequent. Otherwise up you gas card max.
Spimothy Leary
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very true.... I can cross 70 in about 5 seconds from a stop, but that doesn't mean I do it all the time, its actually quite rare because that seems to burn about a quarter gallon of gas when I do, we generally cruise around 50-53 ish most of our rides, we only bounce up to 70 for very short stretches, maybe 1/8 to 1/4 mile at a time, then go back to normal cruise mode.
If i'm running with my 2 stroke group, we cruise around 40-45 max otherwise they run out of gas early, with my 4 stroke group 50-55.
Spimothy Leary
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Cruising at 40-45. Wow. My 04 is such a gas hog if I did that I'd be getting only about 3 hrs a tank.
I typically cruise at about 25-30 and look at the scenery...houseboats full of females are always ...uh....unpredictable...
lol, i've tried that, it doesn't work for me... actually my favorite part is the speed runs, the last 10 miles of twisties back to the ramp, plenty of fuel, 55 into the turns, 70 on the straights !! But we can only do that when we have the right group otherwise people get left behind < not good. So generally the slowest ski takes the lead, fastest ski is the caboose, seems to work well for us.
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