Total Lost? Not sure what to do.

[Sea-Doo-RXP]

I took my RXP to a dealer with a service dept to look at it because I had all of the oil leek out into the hull. They looked it over and told me they think it threw a rod through the case. I have an 04 RXP S/C with about 50 hrs on it. I bought it over the summer for $5000 and only had it out twice. They are telling me I should consider it a total lost because it will most likely cost more to fix it then it's worth. I don't know what I should do. The thought of having to take the lost makes me sick to my stomach. I thinking things over trying to decide what to do. Anyone that has any opinions they think will help please share.

 

[seadoosnipe]

Big bummer!....

I took my RXP to a dealer with a service dept to look at it because I had all of the oil leek out into the hull. They looked it over and told me they think it threw a rod through the case. I have an 04 RXP S/C with about 50 hrs on it. I bought it over the summer for $5000 and only had it out twice. They are telling me I should consider it a total lost because it will most likely cost more to fix it then it's worth. I don't know what I should do. The thought of having to take the lost makes me sick to my stomach. I thinking things over trying to decide what to do. Anyone that has any opinions they think will help please share.

Wow, that's a big bummer... Whats' strange is you only had it out twice. Makes you wonder if the previous owner new it had been damaged before selling it. Did you check all the fluids before taking it out? Did you get any error codes? You should have gotten some kind of warning from the engine managment center before the engine gave way.

Anyway, it's a lot of money invested. If the ski is in immaculate condition and you really want it, then you might consider getting a remanufactured engine. You can pick it up for about $2300 bucks. The only way you'll make out is if you do the engine install yourself. If you have someone with mechanical experience or someone you can pay a few hundred bucks to help you do it by giving you technical advice, you could pull it off with a total investment of 8 to 8.5K. To replace the ski, you'd still spend more than that. So, it's a decision of whether you want to take the total loss or put a bit more money into it. Those guys at the shop, they would have charged you about 5k to do this work.

You also need to see if you can determine where the damage is. If you have oil in the hull, sounds like you punched a hole through the block. see if you can use a mirror and flashlight to find it. You def want to be sure the engine is in fact blown before doing it. I don't trust these shops. They'll tell the un-suspecting customer anything if they think they can make a buck off you.

I hate to hear of your misfortune. I hope I've been a little bit of help to you.

 

[jswope]

I'm no mechanic, so this may be a stupid comment, but you didn't say anything about it running badly, making bad noises or anything, you just said you found oil in the bilge. Could it be something as simple as a crack in the oil reservoir or feed tube?

 

[seadooya]

I'm no mechanic, so this may be a stupid comment, but you didn't say anything about it running badly, making bad noises or anything, you just said you found oil in the bilge. Could it be something as simple as a crack in the oil reservoir or feed tube?

:agree:...atleast fish down in there w/ a mirror, and take a peak.

 

[Sea-Doo-RXP]

Thanks guys, I forgot to mention that a piece (about 1"x2") of the casing was found and I did see the hole with a mirror. I never got any error codes except a low fuel code because I was low on gas at the time.

 

[sporsterjoel]

Buy a used low hr motor... search the web and ebay there out there just have to look. at some point the motor most likley injested water and bent a rod. sbt 4troke motors SUCK PERIOD....ive seen alot of people buy them just to have them blow up couple hrs later, Also another option is to part the ski.

Good complete head sell for $500-600
hull with title $1500-2000
2 piston with rods $200
complete PTO $300
i can go on but thats alot of part to list but you get the idea.

 

[seadoosnipe]

SBT motors....

Buy a used low hr motor... search the web and ebay there out there just have to look. at some point the motor most likley injested water and bent a rod. sbt 4troke motors SUCK PERIOD....ive seen alot of people buy them just to have them blow up couple hrs later, Also another option is to part the ski.

Good complete head sell for $500-600
hull with title $1500-2000
2 piston with rods $200
complete PTO $300
i can go on but thats alot of part to list but you get the idea.

That's what you'll hear from the SBT bashing forums on the internet these days, but the truth of the matter is in the members who have bought them. I know several friends and members who have used SBT, still do and happy with their purchase.

This company is huge! They've been around since 1998 and sell more than 10,000 remanu engines a year. I would think if their engines were that bad, they would not be the leader in sales for the PWC engine market.

Sure, there is always someone who is going to get an engine that may have a problem, that's why they offer the warranty. In any business that makes a product, there is always going to be room for error. That's human. No one is perfect. The company tries to minimize that by putting the engines through a series of tests to make sure the engine performs for you when you put it in your ski or boat.

I've been here since 2007 and have only seen a select few members complain about their product. I personally have used their company several times with only one problem in a RAVE valve. I sent it back, they sent me a new one, no questions asked.

Sea-Doo-RXP, don't take my word, go to their home page, see what they have to offer. Read through the testimonials from actual people who bought them. Yeah, your going to find some negative comments. That's good. That means they aren't perfect. Then you can make an informed decision on your own...........:cheers:

 

[sporsterjoel]

Snipe i know my way around the 4tec to know sbt doesnt do a good rebuild on them, the cheap they rebuild them the more money in there pocket. would you buy a corvette rebuilt motor that used inferior parts? I know people who have bought the 4tecs fron sbt. they use inferior parts and bad rebuild standars. as in they only replace what they need to. ive seen motor with 1 bored over sized pistion, now i know if you replace and bore on you have todo all of them or it will throw off the balance. why buy a reman motor when you can get a low hr OEM motor for less money?

sell the parts from your blown motor and buy an OEM motor.

Head $500-$600
crank with banance shaft $600
2 pistions with rods @200

used low hr 04-05 215hp motor sell for about $2500 minus parts sold $1300ish

= $1200 out of pocket.

not sure why people on this forum push sbt so much, must be a sponsor? either way there are other options out there toget you back on the lake, what would you rather a reman motor or OEM motor.

 

[seadoosnipe]

False advertising...?

That would constitute false advertising and would put them out of business pretty fast. You can't advertise one thing, then do the other.

Just one class action lawsuit would bankrupt their business. I dont' think they'd jeopardize such a huge company, that has bought out other PWC engine companies, to sell us an inferior engine.

No business is perfect. There is always a margin of error, no matter what it is your making. I have heard from members that their pistons aren't the best for the supercharged motors but I have also been told by a few racing members here in the forum, that their engines are fine for the everyday, recreational rider. He stated that if you were going to mod and race it, don't buy the reman, build it yourself.

This member asked for options. You can state your options in the rebuild. You can give them advice to how they can rebuild it themselves. You can also comment about "your" personal experiences with SBT. But, it's not right for you to come in and smear a company that has this kind of respect across the PWC/boat market. It unjustly shines a negative light on the subject for the thread member.

Be equal, give the good and the bad, be fair and be honest. But, don't smash someone over hear say.

 

[sporsterjoel]

That would constitute false advertising and would put them out of business pretty fast. You can't advertise one thing, then do the other.

Just one class action lawsuit would bankrupt their business. I dont' think they'd jeopardize such a huge company, that has bought out other PWC engine companies, to sell us an inferior engine.

No business is perfect. There is always a margin of error, no matter what it is your making. I have heard from members that their pistons aren't the best for the supercharged motors but I have also been told by a few racing members here in the forum, that their engines are fine for the everyday, recreational rider. He stated that if you were going to mod and race it, don't buy the reman, build it yourself.

This member asked for options. You can state your options in the rebuild. You can give them advice to how they can rebuild it themselves. You can also comment about "your" personal experiences with SBT. But, it's not right for you to come in and smear a company that has this kind of respect across the PWC/boat market. It unjustly shines a negative light on the subject for the thread member.

Be equal, give the good and the bad, be fair and be honest. But, don't smash someone over hear say.

why does this always turn into a fight with you? im stating my opinion and giving "other options" for him to explore not trying to force my opinion on anyone. its just that... MY opinion... I have yet to talk to anyone who has been happy with the "4tec motor" they bought from sbt co i can not comment on that. I do how ever know lot of people who have bought 2 strokk motor from them and been more then happy.