Supercharger Design Should Be Better?

[lightman02]

I know the supercharger service is (2) years regardless of usage, has anyone ever had a problem just from age and not from usage? I find it a bit of substandard engineering on BRP’s part that this type of service is required jut based on age on not hours. Yamaha and Kawasaki do not have this requirement and it doesn’t make sense that if they can do it, why can’t BRP? Now it’s not the worst thing to spend roughly $225 a year for supercharger maintenance if you are at least removing it yourself. I feel bad for the guy that has to go to the dealer every time, it just seems like a lot of expense and time for a seasonal unit, especially with some dealer’s backlog, etc. I would think the with today’s technology that engineering on something like this could be a lot better from BRP, I feel this is just poor design. With a supercharger this sensitive and fragile, I feel like I am always riding a ticking time bomb rebuilt or not. I’m just asking for opinions on this, I am not trying to cause and argument or anything. I’m thinking of selling and going to a different vendor. I just had to replace the intercooler, my gauge lens is cracked and my ski is A 2012 under 50 hours!

 

[Spimothy Leary]

Personally I wouldn't consider it "sensitive and fragile" and there are a LOT of SC's out there that have gone well past the 2 years with no issues at all. < as in 10 years and might go 10 more, same goes for the intercooler. The replacement timeline is a recommendation, it doesn't mean the SC is going to blow for sure on the 25th month. I would also assume maintenance and storage, riding style can be a factor, if a ski is stored outside for example I would think contributes to a higher fail rate or if someone pretty much rides WOT all day long, getting unhooked all the time, not having a blow off valve and riding in the surf.

Inter-coolers can be a bit of a weird beast, mine was 8 years old and dirty but functioned perfectly, other guys I know have had them fail after 2 years and then had the aftermarket one fail pretty even faster.

Yamaha went through this with their Clutch issue, guys having failures at 20/30/50 hours and others putting 500 on them with no problems although I do think overall Yami has done a pretty good job with quality, generally earning their solid reputation. I've always felt there was a trade-off between performance and reliability with SD vs Yamaha even going back to the 90's.

Frankly the problems all started when the market demanded upgrades from the SD 717 and the yami 701, (and the SD 4tec 155 and yamaha M1 were pretty bulletproof too) if the buyers were happy with reliable 48mph jet ski's we'd have very few complaints. My first ski was 0-45 in about 8-10 seconds. My Current model is 0-70 in half that time.

 

[gti 130 wow]

I know the supercharger service is (2) years regardless of usage, has anyone ever had a problem just from age and not from usage? I find it a bit of substandard engineering on BRP’s part that this type of service is required jut based on age on not hours. Yamaha and Kawasaki do not have this requirement and it doesn’t make sense that if they can do it, why can’t BRP? Now it’s not the worst thing to spend roughly $225 a year for supercharger maintenance if you are at least removing it yourself. I feel bad for the guy that has to go to the dealer every time, it just seems like a lot of expense and time for a seasonal unit, especially with some dealer’s backlog, etc. I would think the with today’s technology that engineering on something like this could be a lot better from BRP, I feel this is just poor design. With a supercharger this sensitive and fragile, I feel like I am always riding a ticking time bomb rebuilt or not. I’m just asking for opinions on this, I am not trying to cause and argument or anything. I’m thinking of selling and going to a different vendor. I just had to replace the intercooler, my gauge lens is cracked and my ski is A 2012 under 50 hours!

I think as a consumer item and not some special race prep mod , the Sea Doo SC was a flawed product.After putting 260 hrs on my 11 month old GTI 130 with no problems , I am glad I did not get stuck with a 2015 SC Sea Doo . But keep track of your repair cost , because along with the sinking problems related to the plastic muffler , I am sure the class action lawyers are busy in their repair shop creating a fix that the SEA Doo public relations people at Green Hulk can rantionalize away . Of coarse the new Ace seems to be a winner , but I think those who bought the privious engine deserves a pay day from BRP .

 

[AircraftDoc]

Aircraft Propellers spin near the speed of sound at the tip. Aluminum.
10 years or 2,000 due for inspection. They anodize and resurface if it is within minimums.
Work hardening and aging is bad for aluminum.
The newer SCs will prob go for 5 yrs or 200hrs, which ever comes first.