Supercharger Ceramic Washers

[waterholic]

I have a 2004 GTX Supercharged Seadoo, I have been doing some reading on replacing the superchargers ceramic washers with metal washers. I have approximately 40 hours on the machine. Is this something I need to do , if so, is it something I should let the dealer do or can I do this myself. I am somewhat mechanically inclined, although I have never worked on a seadoo.

 

[kustomkarl]

You could more than likely do it youself.
If you want you could join as a "premium member". As a premium member you can down load a authentic seadoo manual from the seadoo manual library. In the library is a variety of manuals for almost all years and models. You can view as many as you like on line as a PDF file, or download it and print it for your personal and privet use. There are operator manuals and repair manuals for you to do your own repairs on your seadoo. The repair manuals have everything from troubleshooting, repair procedures to winterizing. It contains wire diagrams torque specs and pictures for disassemble and assemble instructions. In the spec sheets it tells everything needed to maintain oil changes, spark plug gaps, carburetor rebuilds and impeller wear ring tolerances. Click on the "Seadoo Manuals" link at the top of the page for more details. If you need any help or get in a jam, we are always here to answer your questions too.

Karl

 

[seadoosnipe]

Oil.....

I read somewhere back when, that the best oil to use with the supercharged 4-TEC engines was AMSOIL. I've spoken with one of their reps about the type oil to use and they recommend they (WCF) 10w-40w Full Synthetic brand oil. http://www.amsoil.com/StoreFront/wcf.aspx

The article I read (I wish I would have kept) had to do with the problems with the ceramic washers and oil type. They found that a lot of the problems with the ceramic washers had to do with the oil being used. If I remember right, it was caused by PWC owners using the mineral oil brand of oil instead of the synthetic brand.....but no matter. You could probably ask 25 Seadoo repair shops and they'd all have a different answer.

Upgrading to the metal washers will ensure that you don't blow out the charger........so, it may be worth the work. Reading the chapter in disassembly, the 2007 model 4-TEC, doesn't seem like it's that hard. I've not done it personally, but the manual illustrates it and describes the procedures pretty well.

There are a few special tools to purchase. You'll also have to replace the roller bearings so make sure you read the chapter throuoghly and be sure you can comprehend the procedure. This thing spins up to 45,000 rpm...so attention to detail will be paramount to a successful repair.

Good luck and keep us informed. If you would like more assistance, let us know.

 

[meirvin]

yes you should replace the washers with metal ones ASAP, I know of a source that changes the washers for $50 plus the cost of the washers. You just remove and ship the SC to him. Google "rxp supercharger rebuild" and research the top two links if your intrested

 

[seadoosnipe]

Oils....

I went back through my reading and found that the biggest problems in the ceramic washers to be operators using synthetic oils. The synthetic oils and the ceramic washers are not compatible.

The operators manual for the 2007, super charged 4-TEC says to use the mineral oil XP-S 10w-40w oil, part number 219-700-346. This oil has been tested thoroughly for additives that are compatible with the slip ceramic washers for the standard SC and the SCIC (intercooled)

I had to go back over my research on this because it was so long ago that this topic was brought up, ......but do change out the ceramic washers the first chance you get. They have been known to be troublesome. But, in the meantime, if your using the synthetic blend oil, change to the mineral blend. A complete and throuogh change of oil and filter.

So, now, I stand corrected Karl........(yeah, he has a memory like a hawk looking for food....I had forgot all about it...he didnt'!. :rofl

 

[waterholic]

I appreciate the information on the type of oil to use. I will plan on changeing the oil this weekend. With only 40 hours on this machine do you think it would be ok to run this season with the ceramic washers after I change the oil, or should I go ahead and change out the washers. The local seadoo dealer here in Texas did not seem concerned about the ceramic washers he told me he had only replaced one set and that was because the owner wanted them changed out. He said he would do it for me if I brought him the supercharger and the washers for $150.00 he said he could not supply the washers. Do you know which type would be best. I have seen a couple diffrent types one was stainless the other was a titanium coated steel.

Thanks,
Waterholic

 

[kustomkarl]

I wouldn't wait to do it. It seams kinda pricy for a little bit of time involved to do it. If it breaks it will be down time to get it repaired. I'm not positive on the best ones to get to replace them. I get the info back to you, or someone will chime in I'm sure.

Karl

 

[seadoosnipe]

Ceramic clutch washers....

For all intents and purposes, you should be fine. Although there have been issues with the ceramic washers, it doesn't seem to be a real big, major issue. So as not seen in the forum anyway. Just a bunch of hearsay and some reading I've done about some of the damage caused by the "few" that have gone out.

BUt like I said, they seem to believe that the ceramic "clutch" washers are giving way to those who are using synthetic oil. If you have the synthetic oil in your doo, change it out and the filter. Get the proper oil and filter in place as soon as possible. I think you'll be fine for this season. Change them out in the off season this year. When things slow down.

You should also go to www.seadoo.com and get and read your operators manual on the fuel and oil requirements. From the home page, click on the tab "owners"........from there, you should be able to navigate to the operaters guide page.

 

[alwayswet]

Dude I went to google and typed in "rxp supercharger rebuild and could not find anything Can u shoot me an email or specific web site

 

[MONSTERMATT]

if u go up to the other forum in general discussion i started a thread "rxp 215" and snipe posted a link to new washers