Question about cable???

[sledge]

Here's the deal. I just removed my carb on my 99 GTI last week. I put it back together after replacing the carb filter. I noticed the cable that connects to the throttle cable and under the engine is not tight. When putting the carb back together the cable detached from whatever it was hooked to at the bottom of the engine. I did get the metal doohicky back to whatever it was connected to. Now when I hit the throttle the cable has about a one-inch gap as seen in the picture. What does this cable go to? It ran fine as it is when I had it hooked up to the hose. I think before tearing into the carb that this cable was tighter beforehand. Any help or thoughts would help......

I can't find what this cable is anywhere in the shop manual? Like I said it runs fine so far but want to make sure this isn't going to screw something up.

 

[JJinSC]

I am not familiar with single carb models, but I beleive that is your oil injector cable. If that is the case, you need to make sure that it is adjusted properly before running the engine or you will have engine damage.

 

[kustomkarl]

I believe that is the oil injector cable too...Look for the linkage running to the oil injector pump, and don't run it till you re-attach it. It could lead to a seizure. I can't open the manual for your seadoo on this puter, but I will later and re-post if you don't get an answer by then.

Karl

 

[sledge]

I was afraid of that. I can't figure out why the cable it isn't tighter. Now it has that slack like in the pic. I even greased the cable to make sure it's not sticking. I didn't move the adjustment at all. I just screwed it back into the carb. The only thing I can think of is maybe I don't have it connected correctly at the other end? The cable did pop out at the other end as I was trying to connect it to the carb. Anyone else familiar with this cable I'd appreciate it!

I'll check the manual for the oil injection and see if I see something.

 

[kustomkarl]

That cable end is what goes to the injector pump . It attaches like the carb linkage shwn on the disk behind that cable in the picture...look for the disk to attach it to. I think the cable goes the other direction...look around real close for the injector adjustment "disk", near the oil pump.

Karl

 

[sledge]

Okay I found the cable in section 07-03-01 in the manual. It looks like I have it attached correctly. The lever at the bottom of the injector just moves back and forth. Should there be something to snap it back? I don't see that in the manual. I don't understand because I didn't remove the adjustment screw at all and now the cable is just loose. It is connected at both ends?!

 

[kustomkarl]

The threaded part of the cable is attached ok, that is where you adjust the cable...The ball end needs to be attached to the injector pump... As it is in the picture it isn't attached to anything. look at the picture in your post again. the 2 other cables are attached to a spring loaded "Disk" see the ball ends...look for the "disk" to attach the ball end of the loose cable to.

Karl

 

[sledge]

I did attach it as shown in the diagram from manual. But the lever moves freely on the pump end?

 

[sledge]

The ball end of that cable in the pic is on the other end by the oil pump. I'm thinking the oil pump arm in the second pic attached maybe had the spring come loose because it just moves whichever way it wants without any tension?

 

[kustomkarl]

Ok were on the right track...that oil pump has a return spring so it snaps closed with less rpm's other wise it will just pump full oil as needed at full rpm's. It has to have the return spring working to regulate the oil flow. Check the parts diagram at the top of the page in "parts" link. It might have a better picture of the spring. I gotta run for now, but will be on later this after noon or after 10:00pm tonight.

Karl

 

[cmeseadoin]

The ball end of that cable in the pic is on the other end by the oil pump. I'm thinking the oil pump arm in the second pic attached maybe had the spring come loose because it just moves whichever way it wants without any tension?

I'd check my return spring(s) and make sure they are rebounding properly......it is possible that the buttery is not rebounding like it should causing slack in the cable to occur. Seems the case to me. Not fam. with that ski but from what you've posted.....might have a broken spring either at the oil pump or carb

 

[cmeseadoin]

I'd check my return spring(s) and make sure they are rebounding properly......it is possible that the buttery is not rebounding like it should causing slack in the cable to occur. Seems the case to me. Not fam. with that ski but from what you've posted.....might have a broken spring either at the oil pump or carb

buttery - BUTTERFLY..LOL!! AKA rotating arm of either the oil pump or Carb...

 

[sledge]

I'm thinking it's the spring on the oil pump. How the hell that happened I have no idea. I didn't even touch except to remove the bolt from the carb. The spring on the carb is fine as the throttle will snap back which pulls the oil cable forward but it doesn't spring back from the bottom which causes the slack. How hard is fixing the spring in the oil pump? Anyone have any experience doing that? Thanks for everyone's help!

I think I may now be getting in over my head....:ack:

 

[kustomkarl]

Just replace the oil pump spring.

 

[sledge]

I'm guessing that's got to be the culprit. Weird that it happened but I guess I got to do what I gotta do. According to manual on page 07-03-1 it looks to be just removing one bolt so I'm thinking it should be a pretty easy fix. I'll probably attempt it tomorrow and I'll follow up.

Thanks guys for the help. Great forum once again.

 

[sledge]

Okay here's where I'm at. I took off the bolt that holds the spring. I could feel that the spring was loose. When I took it off I took a picture. There are two hook things on it. It doesn't look like the spring pictured in the manual? Does anyone know if this is the case? I've attached a pic of the spring that came off and a pic from the manual showing the spring and a pic from where I took the spring off of the pump. I'm also trying to figure out if the spring can be reattached because it doesn't look like anything is wrong with it. How hard is it to reattach the spring correctly so that it actually "springs" back the oil pump cable?

 

[sledge]

anyone have any input?

 

[KSUBrian]

not able to see the other side of the spring, but from what I see the spring looks fine. The big loop in the picture would loop around the something on the pump and the smaller loop would go over the arm that is attached ti the cable. It should be installed so that it will pull the arm back after the cable pulls the arm.

 

[sledge]

It's weird because in the manual it doesn't show what it should be connecting to with the loops. Plus the spring does look fine but doesn't look anything like what is shown in the manual which you can see in the pic above.

 

[KSUBrian]

It's weird because in the manual it doesn't show what it should be connecting to with the loops. Plus the spring does look fine but doesn't look anything like what is shown in the manual which you can see in the pic above.

Sorry, can't really tell if it looks like the picture or not. The manual picture is the front side of the spring and your actual picture looks to be the back side. I would slide the spring on the shaft with the large loop side shown in the actual picture going on first and rotate it around clockwise (while looking at the pump) to see if the large loop catches on some area of the pump housing where it has a good fit. you can then mount the cable arm on the shaft with the small spring looped over the cable shaft so when cable pulls the arm in a counter clockwise direction, the spring pulls it back clockwise when the cable is loosened.

 

[kustomkarl]

I believe the spring on the oil pump is broken. The big hook I think, should be longer. If you take the pump off the engine being careful not to get air in the oil lines, you can hold the oil pump in your hand, and see where the spring attaches. It actually gets pre loaded to allow the cable disk to return to closed/idle position. I would put a sandwich baggie under the oil line as the oil will run out of the feed line due to gravity. It shouldn't be a problem on installation as it has a bleed screw to eliminate any air bubbles. Pull off the pump and insert the spring...you'll see where it attaches then.

Karl

 

[sledge]

KustomKarl - I guess I need to remove the thing the carb attaches too first? The carb is off but there is the other part that connects to the engine that blocks off most of the oil pump. I'll go to the seadoo dealer and see if they have spring in stock and see what it looks like. Thanks for the help.

 

[sledge]

Okay called dealer and they said the oil pump is only sold as a full unit?! $251.34 is the cost. Does this sound right? Anyone know? That sucks if that's the case.

 

[kustomkarl]

That could be the case...check on ebay for a spring...after you pull the pump and get a good look at the whole thing.

I was thinking about it today and looked in my surplus of parts...no spring or used pump to steal from one either.

Karl