I have the opportunity to buy a 20 foot Seadoo Speedster Wake boat. I have never owned a boat before and I am concerned about owning a jet engine over a propped engine. My family plans on using this boat for Wakeboarding, Tubing, etc. Also what size of wake would this boat create with the sack filled?
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rexsteiner
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:cheers: welcome to seadooforum jay. one thing i would recommend doing is taking some time and reading some of the posts on here in the boating sections. youll find alot of useful information that will help you make your decision. although much of the input the members will give you will tend to be one sided there are pros and cons to owning a jet boat. what year speedster are you looking at? the wake edition boats are very featured filled boats designed around watersports. i dont ownd a wake edition but i add around 800 pounds of ballast to my 18' challenger and can get 2' of wake with only a driver in the boat ( and a small one i might add) i know its nothing like an air nautique can produce but its enough for the ameture/novice wakeboarder. and aside from that you get all the handleing and manuverablity that comes with a jet boat. im sure that the speedster wake puts out a bigger wake than my boat probably ever could and you also get the perfect pass system and a ballast system that hidden instead of taking up floor space. some of the minuses might be if your area you travel in is coverd in weeds a jet boat usually isnt to enjoyable or if there is a lot of floating debris that can suck too. literally. as for my opinion- if i had the cash at the time i bought my boat i would have a wake edition sitting in my barn instead of a challenger. but 1 always needs a dream, right?
The Speedster wake addition is a new 2008 sitting at the dealer fully loaded and ready to go! I would probably have 2 adults and 3 children maximum in the boat at one time. I am concerned about spending so much money on a boat I have not driven. What are these boats like if the water is a little rough? And what is the big difference in handling this type of boat over a prop? I was told that they plane out very easy!
rexsteiner
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they do plane very easy. they also turn a lot sharper. if your uncertain because you have never drove one before, make the dealer take you on a sea trial. there is no way i would spend that kind of loot for somthing if there was a question of doubt in my mind. for that kind of money MAKE them bend over backwards. thats their job! and dont accept any less. as far as handleing in waves and chop, ive had my challenger in 4' waves. (wasnt fun because of the boat size and i got chewed by the girl but hey it happens) they are not much different in rough waters than prop boats of the same size. the big differnce i notice in wakeboarding is the way the boat tracks from side to side when the boarder is out of the wake. but im sure being the speedster is longer and has twin engins im sure its completly differnt.
rexsteiner
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there were quite a few factors. the biggest one was the features, horsepower and seating capacity for the price. before i bought mine (new)i hadnt even driven any kind of boat that wasnt driven by a paddle. i looked at alot of 18' out drives that were close to the same price as mine (new) and what i found was a bunch of baseline models with very little features and alot of what seemed like underpowered equipment. i also wanted somthing with decent fuel economy. when i bought my boat i had no idea i would pick up watersports like i have. honestly somtimes i wish i had took the amount i spent and bought an up kept ski boat with a v-drive. but then i think of the stuff that wouldnt have or would be differnt. my boat is so easy to launch and load and is super on gas. if i had a ski boat with a v-8 it would cost me twice as much to run and probly more to tow also. i dont think ski boats are any better when it comes to rough waters as i dont see many of them at all on open lakes. just small inlands.the only dis like i had with my boat before i bought it was that it only cam in blue:ack: or that nasty copper:ack:. but i was quick to fix that. every year i try to do somthing differnt to it. this year exempt because i was laid off for a short bit but im sure my perfect pass will be there next year.
just wanted to add, before i bought my seadoo all i wanted was a power boat. somthing like a 24' baja. man am i glad i didnt make that mistake. watersports are pretty difficult behind one of those
ski33
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def jet over prop safer and no leg to worry about !
the wake addision is an awsome boat plenty of reveiws proberbly some videos on you tube but most of all the speed and the nimblenes of jet drive you cant explain!
i wouldent go back to a outboard/drive
this is my 5th jetboat and proberbly wont be the last
the wake addision is an awsome boat plenty of reveiws proberbly some videos on you tube but most of all the speed and the nimblenes of jet drive you cant explain!
i wouldent go back to a outboard/drive
this is my 5th jetboat and proberbly wont be the last
rexsteiner
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what were your outdrive boats?? give us/him an idea what your past experiences have been with. were they comparable with the size and purpose of what you have now?
global1
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i have 2007 utopia 310 hp factory tower. last year had 2005 challenger 180 many mods. year before maxum 1800 w 4.3 stern drive. year before malibu response inboard.the utopia has been great wake boarding. riders do not pull it around,you can see well out the front,has no problem pulling 290 lb rider without cavitation. stern drives tend to ride bow high and speed is hard to maintain at sweet spot.plus jet has no prop for little people.i prefer 310 vs 430 hp less maintanance.
ski33
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a bayliner 160 bowrider with 90 hp merc outboard was one of them and a pain in the ar%$ to keep trimming up when comeing in shallow.
also my wife nearly took my legs of on the slipway once when she hit the starter and i was at the rear of the boat holding it:ack:
a fletcher with outboard again same as above but without the wife problem
(though she proberbly would have given half a chance).
maxum 18ft bowrider with 4.3 inboard that i hit a concerte pipe with the fin buckeled the shaft and ruined a new hi5 prop.
and my 1st boat had no power trim it was an old v hull with an anchent 75 volvo archimides outboard that i broke the driveshaft on trying to power through mud to get out of the shallows (well it was my 1st boat lol)
jet drives: my first was a 15 ft fletcher blast with a 175 merc sportjet v6 that thing used to fly (i was bitten with the jet bug instantly)
since then sportster le 2002,sportster 2001 and a 98 speedster with twin 110s,
up to my current boat the 2005 sporster 150 215 scic only 15ft but it fits me my wife and 2 kids perfect for a famialy day out also an exelent set up ,very easy to flush and clean and i can keep it on the drive! i cant see myself ever going back!
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I have the 230 wake edition and when I was compairing boat option vs price the seadoo can't be touched. A 23' wake setter with on board ballast system,perfect pass,infinity sound system, and wake board racks was $87.000, I got out the door with tax and title with cover for $43.000.
I have the 230 wake edition and when I was compairing boat option vs price the seadoo can't be touched. A 23' wake setter with on board ballast system,perfect pass,infinity sound system, and wake board racks was $87.000, I got out the door with tax and title with cover for $43.000.
Hey thanks for the post, so you think the speedster wake with ballast tanks will provide us with a decent wake for my son to wakeboard? The boat the dealer has is a 2009 speedster wake with tower, speakers, trailer, it has a 430 hp for $38 000.00 Canadian $. It is hard since I have not owned a boat before!
rexsteiner
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deffinatly. even without the ballast. but how big is the ballast/how much weight?
ski33
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hmmm 430hp and you aint owned a boat before:ack:
hope you get a learner key with it lol:rofl:
600 lbs or 272 kg of extra weight, I have no problem with the horsepower, I know how to respect the power of the boat. We will be using this for fun with the family. I like having the power, also this boat is sitting at the dealers because someone ordered it and had to back out, I don't expect it to last long.
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