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Might buy a 2006 GTX. I have a few questions!

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Hello,
I want to thank you guys in advance as I know very very very little about PWCs. I am looking to buy two 2006 GTX supercharged. They both have around 150 hrs and were ran in the ocean, seller tells me they were cleaned after every use and were properly maintained. 8k for the pair. I have a few questions:

1. Is that a lot of hours? Can someone compare this to mileage on a car
2. Is there anything I need to lookout for? specific problems or big maintenance hurdles in the future?
3. There is not a high octane gas station on the water. Can I use octane boost or do I have to lug in fuel containers to fill it?
4. Is 4k a piece a good,bad, or holy sh@%T buy them now price.

Thanks,
Taylor
 
thats not a lot of hours, I have an 04 RXP has 110 hours runs like a champ had the charger rebuilt @ 82 hours
I would think your paying half price of newish
ask if they had the chargers rebuilt, if its the same charger as mine they
have to be rebuilt every 100 hours---about 600.00 ish
if the motor eats one your into 1300 ish or more
 
Price ain't bad...w/ a trailer?

Check the sc's....with the motors off, remove the intake hoses from sc's and try to spin the blades. Check the pump, prop and drive shaft for obvious signs of salt corrosion.

Personally...unless I could ride them and see that they were running flawlessly...I wouldn't...but that's just me.
 
It might help if you could give more details about where you live. Is it in the US, Canada, Australia, State, or at least a general area? We're not child molesters, it would help to know how the ski was used and where.

Lou
 
haha... I live in south Texas on the gulf. After talking to hm I am going to be able to ride them to make sure they are running smooth. He said one supercharger has been rebuilt, so the other one will most likely need it. They do not come with a trailer.

I'm fairly mechanical. How hard is to rebuild them? Found a rebuild kit for $338.. seems do-able.
Any word on gas? Will I be able to use octane boost? or Should I lug in premium from a land based gas station?

THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR QUICK RESPONSES!
 
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TayBam said:
haha... I live in south Texas on the gulf. After talking to hm I am going to be able to ride them to make sure they are running smooth. He said one supercharger has been rebuilt, so the other one will most likely need it. They do not come with a trailer.

I'm fairly mechanical. How hard is to rebuild them? Found a rebuild kit for $338.. seems do-able.
Any word on gas? Will I be able to use octane boost? or Should I lug in premium from a land based gas station?

THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR QUICK RESPONSES!
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If it has 100 hours and hasn't had the supercharger rebuilt then I'd have a dealer/mechanic check it out. They're supposed to be done every 100 hours.

You can run regular gas in them. Octane boost only raises it .1, i.e. 87 octane to 87.1 Not to 88. They won't have the full performance potential as they would in premium but unless you're a hardcore rider you won't really notice.
 
TayBam said:
haha... I live in south Texas on the gulf. After talking to hm I am going to be able to ride them to make sure they are running smooth. He said one supercharger has been rebuilt, so the other one will most likely need it. They do not come with a trailer.

I'm fairly mechanical. How hard is to rebuild them? Found a rebuild kit for $338.. seems do-able.
Any word on gas? Will I be able to use octane boost? or Should I lug in premium from a land based gas station?

THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR QUICK RESPONSES!
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Get them to 8K rpm...then...if you buy the skis...pull the chargers and send them to Jerry Gaddis.

I fill mine with the Sunoco 93 before I hit the water...I also bring another 30gals of it. After that...I'll get the best I can on the water, 89 or so. Never used octane booster.
 
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Besides taking them apart and seeing actual wear on the superchargers how can I check to see if they have damaged the actual super charge due to being late on the rebuild? I assume the boost pressure would suffer, is there even a boost gauge? Taking it up to 8k will tell me what? Vibration or noise coming from the charger?
 
TayBam said:
Besides taking them apart and seeing actual wear on the superchargers how can I check to see if they have damaged the actual super charge due to being late on the rebuild? I assume the boost pressure would suffer, is there even a boost gauge? Taking it up to 8k will tell me what? Vibration or noise coming from the charger?
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lesse....if....if you can't get them 8k rpm ask to pull the intake hoses off the sc's. If you can spin the blades by hand...the sc has lost it's clutch washers...maybe catastrophically so. No boost gage....at least not oem. Getting the skis to 8k will tell you the sc clutches are there and that the sc is making power.

Understand this....if that one ski had a rebuild...but the other didn't...you gotta wonder why. Because chances are he's had a clutch failure. Who did the repair? How thourough was the repair? (Because stealerships are notorious for shortchanging the customer on warranty work from Bombardier....hint....it starts at the top.) Here's what happens when the oem ceramic clutch washers explode...

You're running along fine...been having a good time all day. Gonna take one more run...that's funny....I can't get it to go as fast as last time. Here's where things could get real bad. Instead of stopping and bringing the ski in for the day and checking things out...some will keep running it. What's happening internally is all the small crunched up pieces of broken ceramic washers are flowing through the oil channels in the motor. The screens should get most of it...but if it's been run for any length of time...some will get through...then you have these ceramic particles scoring bearings ect. Reports have those ceramic washers going anywhere from 8-180hrs. Rule #1 when buying these pre '08 skis....swap out the clutch washers.

It is not a joke.

As for mileage.... I've got 230hrs on my '05....and thats low hrs.
 
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ok. So it physically wont make it it to sustained 8k rpm if the supercharger is slipping due to warn ceramic washers. If/when i rebuild them with the metal washers do they still only last 100hrs per rebuild? THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH!
 
When you rebuild...and I suggest to send to a pro...you'll replace those bs ceramic washers with metal. An '08 upgrade is where I would start. You can push the full rebuild past 100hrs or so...but I wouldn't push it too far.

Another story....

My oem washers were swapped out at 90hrs or so...the bearings looked okay so I didn't do the rebuild...just a washer swap. At 170 hrs...while running at 60mph or so during a poker run....my ski shut down. Wouldn't even turn over...sc housing was hot as sht. I got a tow in and finished the run on another ski. When I got home, I found that my front sc bearings had blown apart. When they went, the wheel "touched down" and sent a cloud of aluminum dust into my IC. I got lucky. I got everything out....all the bearings and all the parts of the cage that held them in place. The full rebuild kit plus an old S3 wheel cost less than a oem sc....so...yeah...I lost a stock charger...but replaced it with a better one for less than what it woulda cost me to keep things stock.

If it was me....and I bought those skis...I'd send both chargers out for full '08 rebuilds.
 
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