96 GTX rave valve not connected to pipe- PLEASE HELP

[jleavoy2]

Hello- I am new to pwcs in general and I just purchased a 1996 GTX. (Also a girl who knows nothing about engines) I went to take it out my first time and it would get up and go, then randomly bog down and shut off. Then after waiting a minute I could start it up again, but it'd do the same thing.....

So when I took it back and looked in the engine compartment, one of the (what ive found on this site to be rave valves) was just hanging lose. Now everyone on this forum it seems to talk about 2 rave valves being on the engine, but on my pwc I see the one connected up fron on the engine, but the one that is dangling is in the back near the large pipe. It looks like it screwed onto the pipe as their is a part sticking up from the pipe with threads on it.......

I cannot find anywhere on this forum where a rave valve would be just screwed onto the pipe- it always looked like it's attached with screws.

So anyways I tried to just screw the thing back on, but it won't stay tight and it seems as if the bottom part of the rave valve is sort of melted or something and possibly pieces broken off.....

Please help- any thoughts? Should this thing just screw onto that part sticking up from the pipe? Should I buy a new housing? Via the parts catalogue it looks like the valve housing which is around $60- but the valve housing in the parts catalogue seems to have holes in the side where it would be screwed down and like I said this one doesn't look like that- it just seems to screw itself onto that piece sticking up.

Please help- I'm a girl that doesn't know anything about engines

 

[custompartsguy]

Its ok, the valve you are speaking about is not a rave valve, it looks similar but the valve you are talking about is the water valve and is very important

 

[custompartsguy]

thing is that unless the hoses where diconnected as well there is no way it could have vibrated loose and unscrewed itself, so either it blew off some how or was loose to begin with and from being loose stripped itself, either way it has to be stripped. Take a look at the threads and see how they look, before you just hook it back up and fix the fitting you must first find out if it did any damage to your ski, as if it was not hooked up and just hanging beside it then there was no water getting into the muffler like it should, and you can then overheat it and cause damage. Is there anyway for you to have someone take a look at it for you, or do you want to fix it yourself?

 

[custompartsguy]

can you take a picture for us of the water valve and the water box fitting so we can see the damage? You can upload your pictures to photobucket.com then use the img tag copy it and paste it in here and the pictures will come up.....

 

[kustomkarl]

Your talking about the water flow regulator valve. It might have broken off at the fitting at the pipe. This valve is very important to the running of your seadoo. The Water Flow Regulator Valve controls the water pressure to the cooling system. If it is broken you need to replace it as chances the threads are cracked and it won't hold up if repaired. Look at out "PARTS " link for the part you need.

Here is information to adjust it before you reinstall the new one.

Water Flow Regulator Valve​

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The water flow regulator has been calibrated at the factory and should not be tampered with or modified in any way.
CAUTION: Strictly adhere to the calibration procedure or otherwise serious engine damage will occur.
If engine does not maintain RPM or the engine is experiencing poor performance, the water flow regulator valve might be out of adjustment. The normal adjustment as done at the factory is as follows: On the top of the water flow regulator valve locate the red plastic adjustment screw. Mark the location of the screw with a dab of paint for reference. Turn the screw clockwise (tighten) until the top edge of the screw is flush with the top of the black cap. Turn the screw 2 clicks counterclockwise (loosen). This is the factory spring setting. The bottom tapered screw should be screwed in just snug.

This Regulator valve plays an important part in cooling the engine. Each fitting is a special size and controls the flow of water to the different part of the engine depending on the rpm. Never mix up the fittings or you'll have problems with over heating and maybe seizure.


Karl

 

[Ultra44rk]

Hello- I am new to pwcs in general and I just purchased a 1996 GTX. (Also a girl who knows nothing about engines) I went to take it out my first time and it would get up and go, then randomly bog down and shut off. Then after waiting a minute I could start it up again, but it'd do the same thing.....

So when I took it back and looked in the engine compartment, one of the (what ive found on this site to be rave valves) was just hanging lose. Now everyone on this forum it seems to talk about 2 rave valves being on the engine, but on my pwc I see the one connected up fron on the engine, but the one that is dangling is in the back near the large pipe. It looks like it screwed onto the pipe as their is a part sticking up from the pipe with threads on it.......

I cannot find anywhere on this forum where a rave valve would be just screwed onto the pipe- it always looked like it's attached with screws.

So anyways I tried to just screw the thing back on, but it won't stay tight and it seems as if the bottom part of the rave valve is sort of melted or something and possibly pieces broken off.....

Please help- any thoughts? Should this thing just screw onto that part sticking up from the pipe? Should I buy a new housing? Via the parts catalogue it looks like the valve housing which is around $60- but the valve housing in the parts catalogue seems to have holes in the side where it would be screwed down and like I said this one doesn't look like that- it just seems to screw itself onto that piece sticking up.

Please help- I'm a girl that doesn't know anything about engines

This is the oddest thing that I came on here to post about how mine mysteriously melted off when I took my 96 GTX out the other day and then I found this post....

Does anyone have any idea why the threads of my valve melted off? The ski started running very slowly, poorly etc. I noticed the smoke coming out of the engine compartment and shut it off. The waterbox's colored turned brown and surely overheated, so I have a new one coming. I spoke with my dealer today and they advised me that a new "pressure valve" was approx $250. I found a used one on ebay for $35 and snatched it up.

After this point when I noticed this valve had come off, I pushed it back on to check the performance issue again, when I made it approx 300 feet from shore when the ski shut off, and would not restart. This is when I started taking on water, and luckily swam it back into shore before it was almost completely under. What a day... This has turned out to be the exhaust hose came loose from the back part of the hull exit. (Going to check for another post on that issue).

Thanks.
-Rick

 

[jleavoy2]

Yes I can try to take pictures today or tomorrow and post them on here. Thanks for clarifying what this piece is. The two little hoses were still attached- but the threads were defininately melted/cracked. A few friends of mine (boys) who work on engines and such said they'd help me fix whatever it is....but didn't look at it yet. So is the waterbox a different piece than this valve? Do I need that as well? Also- do I need the entire assembly of this valve? Or could I just buy the outside piece and use the other used pieces? Or was there probably some damage from running the machine like this? Also- are there any other things that I should check now that could have damage caused from this?

Thanks for everyone's help

 

[custompartsguy]

depends, did just the piece on the water box break off of is it and or the valve piece only broke? if the one on the water box is broke just unscrew it off, if the valve piece is also broke you will have to try and find another piece, do not adjust the red cap on it at all, just pop the clip on top and look at everything inside and make sure nothing was melted/damaged. You might get away with just fixing the valve.

 

[jleavoy2]

I'm sorry- what exactly is the waterbox vs the valve? Just a little confused...... - Is the waterbox the big pipe thing that the valve screws onto? Thanks for all of your help!

 

[custompartsguy]

I'm sorry- what exactly is the waterbox vs the valve? Just a little confused...... - Is the waterbox the big pipe thing that the valve screws onto? Thanks for all of your help!

the water box is what that valve screws onto

 

[jleavoy2]

Ok got it- so there could be damage to the waterbox too? How would you be able to tell if there is damage to the waterbox? Also what else could be damaged that I need to look at?

 

[custompartsguy]

Not ness., I would inspect the brass fitting on top of the box and see if it is damaged, if so remove it and replace it, then inspect your valve for damage and if damage is found to the valve replace the broken parts or if you cannot get the parts for it replace the entire valve.....then I would install it back onto the water box and see if the ski is ok. You might be ok to where no damage was done, but if it overheated there could be more wrong, I would recommend that you just get it back running and see how it does.....but I am not an expert on these just trying to help out since I knew what you had found broken.

 

[Ultra44rk]

I downloaded the hose routing route for my ski online, and it appears that I may have switched the water in and water out hoses while "un-winterizing" my boat this spring. I thought I had followed correctly but apparently not. From what I am gaterhing, my boat was not picking up water correctly, or at all while running. It had got hot, the waterbox got too hot and melted the plastic pressure valve off the waterbox. My waterbox is chalky brown from overheating so a new one is on the way.

My suggestion to anyone else having this same problem is to check the routing of the water in and out hoses that needed to be removed for proper winterization.

-Rick

 

[jleavoy2]

help- no water flowing through

So the same thing happened to mine- I bought a new valve but the same thing happened- which is because there was no water coming out of either of those two hoses that connect to the valve. Does anyone know why there wasn't water coming out of those two hoses? What can I check next? Where is there supposed to be water coming out of to flow through those hoses to then go through the valve and water box? Any help is appreciated!

 

[bennlemire]

Yea,, I ,, like a dummy,,, took out the water control valve,,, and yea,,,I DID find the tiniest piece of sand in it,, which was probably the cause of my overheat buzzer going off,,,BUT,, I got distracted,, and forgot which hose connects to where on that control valve,,, one is a short hose,, looks like it's coming IN ,Tee'd off from a larger hose,, and one longer hose takes off to whereabouts unknown as of yet,, into the engine somewhere,, does the short hose go on the top,, or the bottom of the water control valve?
CHEERS!