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787 Oil Pump RFI VS Carb

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Hey guys, I've been looking for a new mikuni oil pump for my carbbed 787. I've found one for a pretty good price, but can't figure out if it's an oil pump for an RFI or carbbed engine. My question is, what is the difference between the oil pump that was put on the RFI engines VS the one put on the carbbed engines? Are they completely different or at all interchangeable?
 
The part#'s are different, and there is a big price jump in the RFI oil pump. Perhaps it's the same, but who knows how it's calibrated for the RFI. You can tell the later pumps from the older pumps as the older ones have the supply line pointing straight down, the later are rotated up 90 deg. You could PM [MENTION=41828]Minnetonka4me[/MENTION] and see if he has any used pumps, that would take your guess work out of the equation. You also know it's a good pump coming from him.
 
Thanks for the info. I'm really looking for a new one, as I'm installing a newly rebuilt engine this spring and would like a brand new oil pump for my peace of mind.
 
I might just have one brand new in the box...ill look.


Oil pumps rarely go bad, they just get blamed all the time. Typically the little oil lines get brittle and crack.
 
I agree. I really don't see anything on the pump that can really go "bad". Usually the oil lines are brittle or the filter is clogged by mixing oils
 
The other thing is the big fitting for the incoming oil. Its pressed in and if it gets loose, its gonna suck air in or possibly leak oil into the hull.
 
That's why this forum is so great, so much knowledge. I learn something new everyday.

I've never personally witnessed an oil pump failure. I've seen many issues due to lack of maintenance on the oil system but no failures from the pump itself
 
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With that said, and I am 100% confidant in the oil injection system, I went premix on my xp with my new 787 engine installed. First ski I have ever done this on and figured I would just give this a shot.
 
The other thing is the big fitting for the incoming oil. Its pressed in and if it gets loose, its gonna suck air in or possibly leak oil into the hull.
If that fitting is pressed on, then I would assume that a pump from a carbed ski will not fit on the RFI, but the RFI pump will go on on a carbed ski? The only thing would be the nipple will stick away from the mag housing rather then pointing down.

According to the manual both the RFI and Carbed oil pumps calibrate at .71-.87ml /30 sec on each line.
 
I might just have one brand new in the box...ill look.


Oil pumps rarely go bad, they just get blamed all the time. Typically the little oil lines get brittle and crack.

Yeah, I hear you on that. I have heard that the pumps rarely if ever go bad. Which is why I am contemplating just putting my old oil pump back on. However, I just like the idea of having a brand new one on there, seeing as how it is a part that the entire engine depends on. The part is almost 20 years old so who knows. Of course I will also have all new oil lines as well. If you do end up having a new one for sale, let me know.
 
If that fitting is pressed on, then I would assume that a pump from a carbed ski will not fit on the RFI, but the RFI pump will go on on a carbed ski? The only thing would be the nipple will stick away from the mag housing rather then pointing down.

According to the manual both the RFI and Carbed oil pumps calibrate at .71-.87ml /30 sec on each line.

Thanks for the info. Seems like they would be interchangeable.
 
Reading the manuals, the RFI and carb oil pumps have the exact same flow rate at 1500 rpm, like kicker said. So do you guys think I would be safe using an RFI pump on my ski?
 
my guess, is the rfi oil pump was built inside for full synthetic oil, run the yellow jug full synthetic oil ......
you probably was going to do run full synthetic anyways ....
 
Thanks for the info. Seems like they would be interchangeable.

The Carbed pump will not work on some of the RFI skis, The RFI motor mount is directly under the oil pump, that is why they have an elbowed fitting for the inlet. In the picture you can see the bottom of the motor mount and why the inlet nipple is a 90.


Here is a carbed 787 with the straight inlet. The motor mount is offset, so the inlet nipple on the pump is able to go straight down.

 
The Carbed pump will not work on some of the RFI skis, The RFI motor mount is directly under the oil pump, that is why they have an elbowed fitting for the inlet. In the picture you can see the bottom of the motor mount and why the inlet nipple is a 90.


Here is a carbed 787 with the straight inlet. The motor mount is offset, so the inlet nipple on the pump is able to go straight down.


Great insight. As others mentioned, the knowledge available on this forum is just outstanding.
 
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