Saltydawg1976
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Ok so my local Walmart stopped stocking the XD100 that I was using. They do have the Quicksilver PWC. 1st can I use the Quicksilver? And if so, is it ok to mix it ? Thank you in advance.
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The XD-100 is for outboard motors and is rated TC-W3 so not the right oil for your Seadoo. You need an API-TC rated oil. Not sure what the quicksilver is rated. I know Lucas has an oil with the proper rating and of course there is the XPS oil from BRP
You should not mix oils as it can congeal,
Saltydawg1976
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This is what the back says. It's weird cause I was told by my local dealer that I could use the xd100. Wow hope I did do anything to the motor
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Never ever use a TCW-3 rated oil in any Seadoo, especially a 951. The only oil that should ever touch a 951 is a full synthetic API-TC oil.
You will have to drain the oil system and change the inline oil filter to switch oils.
The XD100 oil is a BRP Full Synthetic marine, ashless oil. There is a 99.99% chance it is the same oil as Seadoo XPS E-Tec 2-stroke. BRP has become repackaging masters for lubricants and turned it into word salad the last few years.
You will have to drain the oil system and change the inline oil filter to switch oils.
The XD100 oil is a BRP Full Synthetic marine, ashless oil. There is a 99.99% chance it is the same oil as Seadoo XPS E-Tec 2-stroke. BRP has become repackaging masters for lubricants and turned it into word salad the last few years.
Where did you see it is r
Where did you see that XD100 is rated TCW-3? I couldn't find that.
Saltydawg1976
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Hi, I didn't see it was TW-3 I have been using XD100. I was curious if I could switch to the Quicksilver PWC. If not I'll just have to order the XD100 online. But but someone commented on this thread not to use XD100. I'm definitely confused now lol.
That question was for @burtshaver2021 not you. I haven't seen that XD100 was rated TCW-3 either....
No, the Quicksilver does not meet the 951 seadoo specs.
Saltydawg1976
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Ok thank you! I'll just stay with the XD100. Yes burt had me scared because I ran the XD100 all last season.
You may be right, it may be the same as XPS but I’ve seen it advertised as a TC-W3 oil in the first 2 places I found it.
I’ve seen that it’s a TC-W3 in the descriptions at different sites, not on the jug. My opinion is that if it’s geared towards an outboard I wouldn’t use it in a Seadoo, especially not the 951, outboards typically run cooler than a Seadoo. I would just pay the extra and get the XPS. I’ve seen first hand the damage that not using the API-TC oil can do, albeit it was my weed eater lol that calls for API-TC as well. I didn’t use it and that weed water didn’t make it much more than one year
I'm not seeing anywhere that it is a TCW-3 rated oil. Only websites that show it under a TCW-3 banner. I am seeing that you can have your E-tec engine reprogrammed to use the XD100 instead of TCW-3 that will use much leaner ratios and less oil use.
Only thing that would give me pause would be the "no ash" and "marine" as API-TC are low ash, not no ash but TCW-3's are.
Use XD100 to ensure long engine life, durability and reliability in Evinrude E-TEC G2 and Evinrude E-TEC outboards. XD100 maintains engine power and acceleration by reducing combustion deposits and reduced friction. Designed specifically for Evinrude outboards, the synthetic formulation delivers maximum engine performance with uncompromising lubrication. Exclusive Formula: XD100 uses unique and unmatched combination of base oils and ester to achieve the best lubrication for 2-stroke/2-cycle marine engine applications. XD100 is the only engine oil developed specifically for Evinrude E-TEC engines, the most technologically advanced outboard engines. Ultimate Protection: The custom additive package was formulated to reduce critical engine component wear and ensure low smoke and the ultimate protection for lean run conditions. Reduces engine and combustion deposits to help maintain maximum engine power and acceleration. Protects against rust and corrosion in the challenging environment boat engines face. Applications: Evinrude E-TEC G2 Outboard engines Evinrude E-TEC Outboard engines All other brands of 2-stroke outboard marine engines including Evinrude, Johnson, Mercury, Yamaha, Suzuki, Chrysler, Force, and Tohatsu. Includes: 1 Gallon of XD100 Outboard Engine Oil Part Number 779711
Only thing that would give me pause would be the "no ash" and "marine" as API-TC are low ash, not no ash but TCW-3's are.
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Use XD100 to ensure long engine life, durability and reliability in Evinrude E-TEC G2 and Evinrude E-TEC outboards. XD100 maintains engine power and acceleration by reducing combustion deposits and reduced friction. Designed specifically for Evinrude outboards, the synthetic formulation delivers maximum engine performance with uncompromising lubrication. Exclusive Formula: XD100 uses unique and unmatched combination of base oils and ester to achieve the best lubrication for 2-stroke/2-cycle marine engine applications. XD100 is the only engine oil developed specifically for Evinrude E-TEC engines, the most technologically advanced outboard engines. Ultimate Protection: The custom additive package was formulated to reduce critical engine component wear and ensure low smoke and the ultimate protection for lean run conditions. Reduces engine and combustion deposits to help maintain maximum engine power and acceleration. Protects against rust and corrosion in the challenging environment boat engines face. Applications: Evinrude E-TEC G2 Outboard engines Evinrude E-TEC Outboard engines All other brands of 2-stroke outboard marine engines including Evinrude, Johnson, Mercury, Yamaha, Suzuki, Chrysler, Force, and Tohatsu. Includes: 1 Gallon of XD100 Outboard Engine Oil Part Number 779711
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- Replaces Prior Part# 0764357, 764357
- • XPS XD 100 is a premium synthetic marine formulation that delivers ultimate performance in direct injection and oil injection outboard engines
- • Use XD100 to ensure long engine life and optimum performance in Evinrude E-TEC® G2 and Evinrude E-TEC outboards
- • XD100 maintains power and acceleration be reducing combustion deposits and reduced friction
- • Ashless & smokeless formula designed specifically for marine application
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Ok so bottom line is I should just use the Seadoo e-tec 2 stroke? And change the filter don't mix the oil with the xd100
That would be the best plan of action.
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This is the correct one right ?
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It should be this one but since BRP changes the labels every few days it's hared to keep track..
If you go to the BRP website it now only shows two 2-stroke oils.. A Semi-Synthetic in a purple bottle and a "Race Full Synthetic" in yellow.
It's an absolute mess at this point.
https://sea-doo-shop.brp.com/us/en/parts-maintenance/xps-oils-lubricants-care-products/xps-oils.html
The Purple Semi-synthetic says that it is approved for all fuel injected, carb, oil injected and premix Seadoo PWC's so go figure.
If you go to the BRP website it now only shows two 2-stroke oils.. A Semi-Synthetic in a purple bottle and a "Race Full Synthetic" in yellow.
It's an absolute mess at this point.
https://sea-doo-shop.brp.com/us/en/parts-maintenance/xps-oils-lubricants-care-products/xps-oils.html
The Purple Semi-synthetic says that it is approved for all fuel injected, carb, oil injected and premix Seadoo PWC's so go figure.
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Saltydawg1976
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Yes it's crazy. But I was told at some point that in the 951 it was supposed to be full synthetic. Wish I knew more about oil to know the difference. I seen the purple one too but it's not full synthetic
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Thank you my guy. I ordered 4 gallons of the yellow one. 
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