1995 GTX Plastic Tube Unaccounted For

[SeaDooNewBlood]

I have found a torn tube that was inside my GTX. I purchased it 2 weeks ago and ran it once. Everything seemed to have gone fine. When I went into the engine compartment, there was a few liters of water and I sponged it out. So now this tube is unaccounted for. I located it around the shaft near the engine. It was zip tied to two other tubes that were connected to black boxes( think they pump out water). Any help guys?
-Joe

 

[LouDoo]

Hi and welcome to he SeaDoo forum,

How big is the tube? Sounds like it could be the battery vent tube, if you have a sealed battery you don't need it.

What concerns me is the amount of water in the hull. Do you know how it got in there? The black boxes you are referring to are called bailers, check and see if the holes in the bottom are clogged. They are connected to a venturi in the pump, check and see if they are hooked up. The lines should be cable tied high on the ski, just under the seat, if they are not tied up high water can actually siphon water into the ski.

Lou

 

[SeaDooNewBlood]

Hi and welcome to he SeaDoo forum,

How big is the tube? Sounds like it could be the battery vent tube, if you have a sealed battery you don't need it.

What concerns me is the amount of water in the hull. Do you know how it got in there? The black boxes you are referring to are called bailers, check and see if the holes in the bottom are clogged. They are connected to a venturi in the pump, check and see if they are hooked up. The lines should be cable tied high on the ski, just under the seat, if they are not tied up high water can actually siphon water into the ski.

Lou

I guess its around 3/4 inch and the Bailers are clogged. Do I need to remove them and clean the entire tube or just remove the gunk from the actual box part?

-Joe

 

[bigJake]

is the hose connected to anything on either end? Lou, maybe the drain line from the bottom of the engine?

 

[SeaDooNewBlood]

At the time of purchase it was not connected to anything. Just corroded.

 

[bigJake]

is this a clear plastic line? how long?

 

[LouDoo]

Jake,

That's what I'm thinking too. This diagram doesn't show the hose but in connects to part no 21.

http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.com/seadooforums/Seadoo_oem/Seadoo_PWC.asp?Type=13&A=31&B=3

The best way to clean the bailers is to remove them from the ski, spray them down with a degreaser, like Castrol Super Clean, then rinse with hot water.

Lou

 

[SeaDooNewBlood]

Here's a video. The hole in the beginning was we're it was connected. Then I showed where it was zip tied and then the hole again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SnEy9yVESo

 

[LouDoo]

I'm not 100% sure on this but I don't think the other end of the hose connects to anything. It's a drain for the motor and the only function that I know of is you pinch the hose off when you winterize the ski to keep the anti freeze from running out.

Lou

 

[SeaDooNewBlood]

So is my sea doo safe to run?

 

[bigJake]

Lou, on our GSX's doesn't that drain hose connect to a fitting on the right rear inside of the hull near the exhaust hose (behind the battery).

 

[bigJake]

NewBlood,

If one end connects to the bottom of the engine, where Lou pointed out, then it is the engine drain line. I would suggest that you download the manual for your ski. It will show where (if) it connects. If you can't find it, check in the winterizing section. On the GSX, I'm pretty sure it connects to the rear of the hull (in a difficult place to reach) in the right rear corner. I don't know for sure about the GTX

 

[SeaDooNewBlood]

Ok I will look. Is it a necessity to ride?

 

[bigJake]

hmm, sorry I don't know 100%. I'm just an amateur at this, but given that you did have water in your hull when you ran it last, I personally wouldn't chance it. But maybe one of the pros will provide clarification.

 

[LouDoo]

I just checked the service manual depending on the model the other end of the hose connects either directly to the exhaust or connects to a tee that connects to the exhaust port. As Jake said you should download a service manual to know for sure. So Jake you are correct.

Yes you need to connect this hose at both ends or you will get water into the hull, my guess is it's rolled under the engine.

Lou

 

[SabrToothSqrl]

TAKE... A ... PHOTO.

my guess is bailer tube.

clean those bailers! they work great when clean, not so much clogged.

 

[bigJake]

TAKE... A ... PHOTO.

my guess is bailer tube.

clean those bailers! they work great when clean, not so much clogged.

the bailer tubes are visible in his video. At least where they connect to the top of the hull. I'm assuming the other ends are each connected to one of the bailers.

 

[SabrToothSqrl]

tempo fuel lines.

 

[bigJake]

tempo fuel lines.

good point Sabr, I missed that in the video.

As Sabr pointed out, yoiur ski still has the original gray Tempo fuel lines. Those break down internally and clog up the entire fuel system.

You will want to ASAP, replace those. It is not a matter of IF but WHEN the ski will start bogging down. You also risk not getting enough fuel and running it lean which could melt a piston. You can replace the lines with black automotive fuel line (takes like 2 hours). The internal carb filters will be gunked up too so you want to do a carb rebuilt AFTER changing the lines. possibly the fuel selector valve.

Read this thread, it gives great info on the whole process and there is a link to a PDF with step by step carb rebuild instructions.
http://www.seadooforum.com/showthre...el-Delivery-Problems-low-revs-bogging-surging

 

[SabrToothSqrl]

it may be important to note; it's my understanding that the tempo lines are fine. It's the 10% ethanol fuel that causes them to degrade and become junk... so sea-doo did right by the design. but good luck finding pure gas any more. speaking of... the EPA uses pure gas to test the MPG on all new cars... no wonder I can't hit my MPG

Black automotive lines are not USCG approved but no one really checks, and they are at least better than your old lines. I assume '95 had no RFI or DI where you would need high pressure lines, but I'm more of a '99-02 carb 947 self proclaimed pseudo semi expert).

 

[bigJake]

that is my understanding as well on the Tempo lines. I've set my goals a little lower than yours. I'm aiming on pseudo semi amateur . Brother Lou likes to call himself a shade tree mechanic, but he has forgotten more than I'll ever know and I don't even have any shadetrees.