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01 gtx di over heating
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roberth2013
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thanks I will try them first, is there any type of cleaner/ solvent that will help dissolve the corrosion of the parts im going to clean, that wont hurt the parts I need to try and save?
DooWacka
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I don't know of any solvent like you're asking for. Maybe Bills86e since he seems to know a bit about solvents and the like.
I agree Minnetonka4me usually has parts. Some others may be parting out 951/947 and having parts like you may need, maybe DrHonda.
Can you show pics of what you are talking about? A certain amount of white corrosion is common on the aluminum parts, and some rust on the steel/iron parts is common, even in fresh water only units.
I agree Minnetonka4me usually has parts. Some others may be parting out 951/947 and having parts like you may need, maybe DrHonda.
Can you show pics of what you are talking about? A certain amount of white corrosion is common on the aluminum parts, and some rust on the steel/iron parts is common, even in fresh water only units.
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roberth2013
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i didnt have my camera with me, working on them with a buddy of mine, the corrosion im talking about looks like yellowish salt, it gets worse took the pipe off it was getting late, today when i started cleaning parts to see what all i needed,underneath the stuff im talking about, the head pipe is cracked halfway around at the flange,,its junk,, decided to take off the exhaust manifold, all of the bolts came out
without to much trouble, except the top two long ones, omg, they were so tight they bent and eventually broke off, i thought man there goes the cylinders,
i used pb blaster penetrating fluid and backed them out maybe a half turn sprayed them let them set a couple minutes turn them back in about the same trying to work the fluid into the threads and maybe get them out without breaking them
another half turn, and so on,,they came out about 3/4 inch and then broke off,,i got sick again,,took a rubber mallet and tried to knock the manifold loose wouldnt budge an inch,,after about two hours of different ways trying to get it loose and off,,
the bolts werent frozen in the head,,it was the same whitish corrosion in the holes the bolts were going through,,, got that off holes nice threads no corrosion, looked into the water passages in the cylinders fairly clean, took the lower half of the pipe off to get to the fitting
on the back of the head,,hoping the blockage might be right there, no luck again,,the fitting had the same salty looking stuff in it
well now on to the head,,omg again i broke two hardened star impact sockets off on the head bolts i have never seen anything like it
looked up the torque specs on the bolts,,,no way they should not be able to be removed with a 1/2 breaker bar and hardened sockets
the one bolt i was able to break loose had the same whitish powder all the way down the shaft of the head bolt,but the threads were clean,,tomorow im going to just take the motor the rest of the way out and go from there,,,and i havnt even started on mine yet
without to much trouble, except the top two long ones, omg, they were so tight they bent and eventually broke off, i thought man there goes the cylinders,
i used pb blaster penetrating fluid and backed them out maybe a half turn sprayed them let them set a couple minutes turn them back in about the same trying to work the fluid into the threads and maybe get them out without breaking them
another half turn, and so on,,they came out about 3/4 inch and then broke off,,i got sick again,,took a rubber mallet and tried to knock the manifold loose wouldnt budge an inch,,after about two hours of different ways trying to get it loose and off,,
the bolts werent frozen in the head,,it was the same whitish corrosion in the holes the bolts were going through,,, got that off holes nice threads no corrosion, looked into the water passages in the cylinders fairly clean, took the lower half of the pipe off to get to the fitting
on the back of the head,,hoping the blockage might be right there, no luck again,,the fitting had the same salty looking stuff in it
well now on to the head,,omg again i broke two hardened star impact sockets off on the head bolts i have never seen anything like it
looked up the torque specs on the bolts,,,no way they should not be able to be removed with a 1/2 breaker bar and hardened sockets
the one bolt i was able to break loose had the same whitish powder all the way down the shaft of the head bolt,but the threads were clean,,tomorow im going to just take the motor the rest of the way out and go from there,,,and i havnt even started on mine yet
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DooWacka
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Whitish looking powder or "salt" is common (yellow??), since there is no anti-corrosion glycol circulating, just plain water.
Some of your bolts could be galling the aluminum, so you will need to use threaded inserts like Helicoil to replace them. They may not have had enough thread protectant originally.
Some of your bolts could be galling the aluminum, so you will need to use threaded inserts like Helicoil to replace them. They may not have had enough thread protectant originally.
roberth2013
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well got one of the motors almost torn down, star head bolts on the head all stripped off,, tried several things to get them off,,,ended up grinding all the bolts down to the head, been saturating them with penetrating fluid for the last few days,,hoping I can get the head off without destroying it, found one one ebay just in case, head pipe cracked half way around the flange, cone in about as bad a shape to,,found some headbolts on ebay to,, not sure what else bad parts im going to find when its all said and done,,,but at least I will know that everything is done right and put back together,,,hopefully with no more cooling issues,,,and from this experience,,they will never be like this again,,,preventive maintenance, from this day forward,,, it will all be worth it when I ride off into the sunset for the first time lol
will keep writing about this experience so other people might learn from it,,
will keep writing about this experience so other people might learn from it,,
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