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yet another carb spring/popoff psi question

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Have you checked the two check valves on the vent line? One should let air in and not out easily and the other should let air out under about 5 psi pressure. To me it sounds like it is starving for fuel after a few minutes of running. Also are you totally sure all hoses are routed correctly and your pickup is not damaged?
 
You should see at least 12.5 volts at the battery before anticipating it will start, if voltage at the battery drops under about 11V while cranking there's a good chance there isn't enough voltage to operate the CDI ignition. Remember, even if there's enough high voltage to jump the spark gap in open air, this might not happen during the compression stroke, it's more difficult since plug voltage must be higher across the gap during the compression. Usually in this case though, the problem is the plug itself (ie: the voltage rises enough to either jump the gap or bleeds down the side of a contaminated ceramic center electrode insulator).

Since the first 30 minutes of the water testing went well, I'd say the carburetor calibrations were correct and you should go back to where those were. Also, this means the cooling was adequate.

I don't recall if this ski has the DESS system or the older simple lanyard switch but the older simple lanyard switches were notorious for poor connection in the switch and often were found to be the cause of ignition issues.

One way to eliminate the possibility of no or lack of fuel flow is to run a hose from a small fuel tank like drop a hose into a gallon can of pre-mix and see if this makes a difference. You have to be certain the fuel pump can pump fuel and also that it's not sucking air.

If you're unsure of the oiling system, you could run pre-mix in the fuel tank to temporarily supplement the oil supply, a dry carb though doesn't pass fuel thus won't pass oil as well, in this case. commonly we see plenty of roasted 2-stroke motors due to one carb is dry and thus one cylinder isn't receiving it's oil and fuel through that carb so take precaution and heed the notion of carbs not fueling correctly b/c this always leads to engine damage in all cases for 2-strokes. Too much fuel where the plugs tend to foul is safer than lack of fuel.

I tweak my 2-stroke carbs till they're on the clearly on the rich side of the rich/lean conundrum then go back toward lean gradually till the plugs run a normal color and normal power is produced. That is, it's much better to be slightly on the rich side of the knee point. A 2-stroke will literally put out it's peak power and run like stink with gobs of power as mixture reaches that knee point, then over the cliff of seizure shortly afterward due to not enough fuel. Go richer till you hear that 4-stroking rich burble then back toward lean till it cleans up. These carbs cannot be tuned out of water aside from correcting gross problems, they don't make power on the trailer and the plugs will run stone cold.

One more thing to investigate is the condition of battery cables b/c salt gets under the insulation and corrodes them into pencil-lead thickness. So if battery voltage remains over 11V while cranking there could be enough loss through the cables to allow CDI module voltage to drop under about 10V, which is approaching the lower operation limit.

Keep plugging away, you'll find it! :)
Good stuff there. I checked the battery, a new battery btw, and it showed just a bit under 12 volts. Darn. So I tried to start the ski and it did after a bit, but it died shortly thereafter. The meter I had on the battery showed the voltage dropping to about 10v as the ski was trying to start and then started. I charged the disconnected battery for about half an hour till it showed 12.5 volts. I started the engine, it ran fine (on hose) but the voltage never went above 12.5. Darn...charging problem. A quick look at the manual shows there are two fuses to check. I'll get to that tomorrow. And the other tests too, if they're needed.

This ski has the DESS.

It's a one carb, two cylinder.

I like the idea of piping in a small tank of premix to see if that makes the difference. If I 'ut a quick connect in there, I can try two tanks, one of premix and the second of straight gas. But first, solve the charging issue.

thanks
Pat
 
Have you checked the two check valves on the vent line? One should let air in and not out easily and the other should let air out under about 5 psi pressure. To me it sounds like it is starving for fuel after a few minutes of running. Also are you totally sure all hoses are routed correctly and your pickup is not damaged?
I pressure tested the system. And when I released the clamp, the out valve worked. I haven't checked the in valve for operation except thru the pressure test. It's a tough one to check as it's attached to the body and in a place that can't be reached from outside the body. I might try another hose on it and try to pull air thru it. That should work.
When the ski stopped running the last outing, I opened the fuel cap and didn't notice and vacuum or pressure build up. But I'll be testing and trying everything.
thanks
Pat
 
... Since you know the ski ran for 30 minutes than sat for 6 months. I guess we should of ask did you put up for storage anything after it sat that long? ... Sometimes it just a stupid battery or a loose ground..
I winterized it when I put it up for that long winter's nap. By the book. At this point it's looking like a stupid charging problem. And then probably back to the fuel. LOL It's a machine, it will be figured out and fixed if at all possible. IT - now there's a field where sometimes it just can't be figured out.
 
it appears the magneto is not charging the battery. I worked thru the system until I checked resistance level on the yellow and yellow/brown wires coming from the magneto. Dead short. 0.000 on the meter.
So now to read up on magneto disassembly and wait for a not so cold day.
Hopefully it's as simple as a broken solder joint on the battery charging armature. If not, replacing that part looks to be another adventure.

Thanks to everyone who gave ideas and directions thru this process. It will probably be a bit before I can get this work done so I want to make my appreciation known now before it gets to far along on the calendar.
 
A good saying: When hearing hoof beats think Horses not Zebras. Which means most of the time it is basic issues. Not a complex or rare failure.
 
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