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Shurhold Dual Action Polisher kit
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canadianwhiskey
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It does a really great job. Too cold up here to work on the boat yet for me though.
YUOnDaGround
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The whole kit for $220? Was that a deal?
I bought a 10" buffer for $35 (with 5 pads)
Two cans of buff magic shipped to the door for $25 (for both)
The polish for $15
Total: $75
Is there something else that you got to make it work the extra $145?
noswal_j
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A buffer for $35...? That would be a cheap orbital, and it would just surface "wax" the gelcoat. If your gelcoat is new and has no oxidation build up then it will suffice. But in general the speed they operate at doesn't "heat" the wax up enough to really do a professional looking job. To do it right (on an older gelcoat with varrying degrees of oxidation) you will need a variable speed polisher with an rpm range of 1500-6500. I purchased a Porter Cable 7424XP polisher (dual action) in the summer time along with the Buff Magic, a good polish and wax. The dual action works well as it doesn`t leave swirl marks if you keep it in the same spot for too long. Results were top notch (and noticable) on a 10 year old boat that looked good before I did it.
The unit and items that Thor purchased is a good deal. He would do best to follow up with a polsih then a wax. just my 2 cents...canadian.:cheers:
The unit and items that Thor purchased is a good deal. He would do best to follow up with a polsih then a wax. just my 2 cents...canadian.:cheers:
YUOnDaGround
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My polisher is orbital variable speed from 0-5500. The speed doesn't matter much as Yacht Brite recommends no faster than 2500rpms. It was on sale from $50 to $35.
noswal_j
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I don`t know what make your polisher is, but from $50 to $35....
I know I got mine for $175 on sale and I considered that an excellent deal.
I am a true believer that you get what you pay for.......but if you`re happy with it, than thats all that counts.
For the Yacht Brite, yes that is what they recommend, but when it comes time for polishing and waxing, the higher rpms makes for a huge difference....as I am sure you are aware.:cheers:
I know I got mine for $175 on sale and I considered that an excellent deal.
I am a true believer that you get what you pay for.......but if you`re happy with it, than thats all that counts.
For the Yacht Brite, yes that is what they recommend, but when it comes time for polishing and waxing, the higher rpms makes for a huge difference....as I am sure you are aware.:cheers:
YUOnDaGround
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I don`t know what make your polisher is, but from $50 to $35....
I know I got mine for $175 on sale and I considered that an excellent deal.
I am a true believer that you get what you pay for.......but if you`re happy with it, than thats all that counts.
For the Yacht Brite, yes that is what they recommend, but when it comes time for polishing and waxing, the higher rpms makes for a huge difference....as I am sure you are aware.
Well, I'll tell you what. I'll take before and after pictures and we'll see how it turns out. Yes I am happy saving my money and not paying for a name. Good luck on polishing and post some before and afters as well.
Dr Honda
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I buy 2 at a time at Harbor Freight when the variable speed, rotary buffers go on sale for $19. I've had good ones, and the motor eventually gets filled with the buffing compounds, and they stop working. So... for $19 a pop... I just toss it when it slows down.
And... as an fyi... they normally last 3 or 4 years.
Not bashing anyone... just saying.
And... as an fyi... they normally last 3 or 4 years.
Not bashing anyone... just saying.
The whole kit for $220? Was that a deal?
I bought a 10" buffer for $35 (with 5 pads)
Two cans of buff magic shipped to the door for $25 (for both)
The polish for $15
Total: $75
Is there something else that you got to make it work the extra $145?
Is there cheaper kits out there...for sure, but to be honest, I have tried them before and ended up throwing them out!! I checked out Shurholds website along with reading quite a few reviews and decided to go with their complete product package. I have 2 boats to buff and polish, a 15ft and a 20ft...so I have allot of work ahead of me!!
Dr Honda
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Yep.
Wear some old cloths. The polishing compounds will normally stain... and you will be covered after all that work.
As above... post some pics when you're done. :cheers:
shurhold
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Shurhold Dual Action Polisher
Hi All!
Barry here from Shurhold. Thank you to everyone for the great comments on our Buff Magic and our Dual Action Polisher.
Just wanted to put in a couple of helpful tips and comments on this topic.
1. The Dual Action Polisher speed is rated in OPM (Oscillations Per Minute) not RPM like a rotary. So there is no direct comparison between the two. With that said a Rotary by nature is much more aggressive and also much more dangerous to your finish if you are not skilled with one. A skilled detailer will always prefer a rotary since it is more efficient in getting the job done. They also have the skills to prevent burns and swirls. The average boater that is going to detail their boat on their own that does not use a rotary on a regular basis is much better off with a Dual Action Polisher. Here is why:
For Compounding (Buff Magic): It will be much more efficient than doing it by hand and is quite capable machine for light to medium oxidation. A complete novice can do a professional job in these situations. Sometimes with a bit more oxidation a couple more applications might be necessary, but you will get the job done swirl free! (Side Note: You can use Buff Magic and the Polisher to restore fogged headlights on your car!)
For Waxing (Pro Polish): Here there is no difference in efficiency compared to a rotary. The Dual Action Polisher with wax just a quickly and again no fear of burns or swirls. Just a professional shine every time.
As for those $30-$50 orbitals they are really just low powered vibrators. You do not get any real action out of them. Buff Magic will not work properly with them and for waxing you do not get much better results then doing it by hand.
2. I saw a couple of posts about heat being needed to make Buff Magic work. This is not correct. In-fact to much heat can hurt your finish. Rotary burn. The Buff Magic has a proprietary aggregate that works as microfine sand paper suspended in the cream. As you work the product this material fractures and becomes finer and still sharp. Just as if you were switching to finer and finer grit sand paper. This process continues again and again. That is the MAGIC part. Heat has nothing to do with the process. Speed and impact do. This is why if you run your polisher to fast with this product it does not seem to work as well. This is because you are accelerating the breaking down of the aggregate.
Now with Pro Polish heat is another story. A small amount of heat, the amount created from the simple friction of the pad against the surface helps the product bond with the surface of the boat. The heat generated from waxing by hand or with a Dual Action Polisher is plenty. Again, to much heat from a rotary not used properly can actually burn the surface of your boat.
Hope this helps!
As always you can reach us and ask question at : http://shurhold.com/contact/
Barry Berhoff - President
Shurhold Industries, Inc.
Helping Keep Your Boat Clean N Simple!
Hi All!
Barry here from Shurhold. Thank you to everyone for the great comments on our Buff Magic and our Dual Action Polisher.
Just wanted to put in a couple of helpful tips and comments on this topic.
1. The Dual Action Polisher speed is rated in OPM (Oscillations Per Minute) not RPM like a rotary. So there is no direct comparison between the two. With that said a Rotary by nature is much more aggressive and also much more dangerous to your finish if you are not skilled with one. A skilled detailer will always prefer a rotary since it is more efficient in getting the job done. They also have the skills to prevent burns and swirls. The average boater that is going to detail their boat on their own that does not use a rotary on a regular basis is much better off with a Dual Action Polisher. Here is why:
For Compounding (Buff Magic): It will be much more efficient than doing it by hand and is quite capable machine for light to medium oxidation. A complete novice can do a professional job in these situations. Sometimes with a bit more oxidation a couple more applications might be necessary, but you will get the job done swirl free! (Side Note: You can use Buff Magic and the Polisher to restore fogged headlights on your car!)
For Waxing (Pro Polish): Here there is no difference in efficiency compared to a rotary. The Dual Action Polisher with wax just a quickly and again no fear of burns or swirls. Just a professional shine every time.
As for those $30-$50 orbitals they are really just low powered vibrators. You do not get any real action out of them. Buff Magic will not work properly with them and for waxing you do not get much better results then doing it by hand.
2. I saw a couple of posts about heat being needed to make Buff Magic work. This is not correct. In-fact to much heat can hurt your finish. Rotary burn. The Buff Magic has a proprietary aggregate that works as microfine sand paper suspended in the cream. As you work the product this material fractures and becomes finer and still sharp. Just as if you were switching to finer and finer grit sand paper. This process continues again and again. That is the MAGIC part. Heat has nothing to do with the process. Speed and impact do. This is why if you run your polisher to fast with this product it does not seem to work as well. This is because you are accelerating the breaking down of the aggregate.
Now with Pro Polish heat is another story. A small amount of heat, the amount created from the simple friction of the pad against the surface helps the product bond with the surface of the boat. The heat generated from waxing by hand or with a Dual Action Polisher is plenty. Again, to much heat from a rotary not used properly can actually burn the surface of your boat.
Hope this helps!
As always you can reach us and ask question at : http://shurhold.com/contact/
Barry Berhoff - President
Shurhold Industries, Inc.
Helping Keep Your Boat Clean N Simple!
YUOnDaGround
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I love it when an expert weighs, mistakes on both sides are cleared up. Thanks Berry.
noswal_j
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If I could get them for $19 with out paying for shipping to Canada, I wouldn't mind "tossing" them out. But since I don't have the luxury of a Harbor Freight in Canada and have to pay more for shipping to Canada than the unit is worth, I can't see the advantage. We do have stores that sell the cheap ones, but I couldn't see them lasting more than 1-2 years amx. with the amount of use mine gets. Depending on your frequency of usage I am sure they are great to have for that cheap of a deal. I used my parents Porter Cable for 4 years on their 40 footer, my boat, and my brothers Offshore (when I wanted to have it for a weekend). In conjunction with that, it is also used for vehicles, and my friends toys too. With that being said, I bought what I know would last me for years without having to worry about "tossing" it out.
Again, I am a true believer you get what you pay for....:cheers:
Barry, thanks for the info....what you said justified my purchase!! Now quick question, do I need to use the Pro Polish after using the Buff Magic?? My boat has light oxidation.
Thanks,
shurhold
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YES. You need to wax your boat after you use BUFF MAGIC. While I would love to see you use our wax PRO POLISH, any good quality wax should be used to protect the boat at this point on the process.
Well, then your wish has come true because I have the Pro Polish...LOL
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