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I'm fairly new to this forum and to maintaining jet ski's. However I ran into one of you guys common problems...... cleaning the carb filter and replacing the gray fuel lines.
I've read several threads and post and that made the process easier than it would have been had I not read all the posts. HOWEVER, there is one step that is left out of all the threads I read. It has to do with the small (1/8") fuel lines on the top and side of the carb. (1998 Seadoo GT) Square body carb. Mikumi ???? anyways.
I couldn't find automotive fuel line that small so I took the carb to my local motorcycle honda shop. They didn't have the line but one of the guys says "why don't you just take it off and clean it, it may not have to be replaced since it's a different kind of line than the gray lines". So we took it off and spayed carb cleaner through it and looked inside. One of the lines was clogged. After several minutes of trying to unclog the line we finally got it unclogged. The item inside was ....... a small brass piece that he called a reducer. On one side was the same size as the fuel line and the other side was teeny tiny, so small a needle would have a hard time getting through it. He explained the reason for this and said they are common on motorcycle carbs and needs to be in the line. I beleive it was the longer of the 2 lines.
So .... several of the posts say to cut all the lines put on new ones. Had I done that my ski would not have ran at its best.
CHECK THE SMALL LINES for this brass insert inside the line.

Good luck.

BOYD
 
Are these the hoses for the accelerator pump? If they are... the reason we don't talk about them in the regular fuel line replacement threads is because they aren't "Tempo" hoses. Also... most seadoo's don't have accelerator pumps.

Regardless... if you are doing a carb rebuild... then everything needs checked.

FYI... you can get the little 1/8" hose at most lawnmower shops (fuel line for a weedeater) or hat a hobby shop. They sell 1/8" Tygon fuel line that is gas safe. (Don't buy Silicon hobby fuel line. It doesn't like gas) The Tygon is also good as a replacement for the small oil lines for the oil injection.
 
I find this very interesting. My 97XP does have the accelerator pump and it has never transitioned well between low speed and high speed. I always have to feather the throttle to get it up to the higher speeds. When I replaced my fuel line 2 years ago, I cleaned the carbs very well and made sure the small lines for the accelerator pump as well as the check valves and fittings/jets where not clogged. This did not correct the problem.No matter what I did, it seems like only the PTO carb would get the spray from the pump. Even after Making sure the line and jet in the MAG carb was not clogged, it still did not get much spray from the pump. I just had my engine rebuilt and at the same time, I had the carbs rebuilt and asked them to check/clean, etc. the function of the accelerator pump. My ski still operates in the exact same manner. It does not move between the lower RPMS to the higher RPMS without bogging and having to feather the throttle. I do not recall finding a little brass piece in the hose when I checked and clean. Although it could have been. I just checked to make sure the carb cleaner sprayed out the other end.

I bought this ski new in 1997 and as far as I can remember it has always behaved this way. Could my whole problem be because that piece is missing in my small hose? How can I check for this?
 
Accelerator pump? Why isn't this in any of the repair manuals?? Is this some aftermarket thing? y do people put them on?
 
Accelerator pump? Why isn't this in any of the repair manuals?? Is this some aftermarket thing? y do people put them on?

No. The newer skis use them. I think 97 was the first year... but only on the XP. In later years, it became more common. They figured out that they could run the ski "Leaner" with the pump to get them over the vacuum drop of a fast throttle opening.
 
Do you think it would help if I installed a 97 accelrator pump on my 96 xp? I have two sets of carbs, and they both do the stupid hesitation on opening the throttle, although one is much worse than the other. How different are the carbs otherwise?
 
I have 98 GTI with the accelerator pump and I recently replaced the 1/8" lines on it. The little brass piece is called a recharge jet in the parts catalog of my ski on xtreme powersports website. I'm just not sure if I put it back in the hose the correct way. Would anybody happen to know which side of this reducer/recharge jet is suppose to point to the accelerator pump? I would assume the smaller end, but I want to be sure.
 
Do you think it would help if I installed a 97 accelrator pump on my 96 xp? I have two sets of carbs, and they both do the stupid hesitation on opening the throttle, although one is much worse than the other. How different are the carbs otherwise?

Different enough that simply adding an accel pump would not work. It would at the very least require re-jetting I believe.
 
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