Question aobut winterizing

[revereamg]

i have a 1999 gti with a 717. when i was putting antifereeze into the motor(thru the water exit hose), i pinched the engine drain hose (clear drain hose coming out of bottom of exhaust), but i forgot to pinch the engine water supply hose (on rear of motor, arrow points into engine).

the antifreeze went into the drain hose like the manual said it would.

But, did me forgetting to clamp the water supply hose let the water/antifreeze go somewhere it shouldn't ? (like the exhaust or the cylinders) Would it be ok to leave it like this for the winter or do i need to re-winterize it ?

 

[seadoosnipe]

Your fine....

You are fine. If you did anything, you provided additional protection.

The water inlet line from your pump is the end of your cooling circuit running it in reverse. So, if you got coolant at that point, you are protected.

If you got any in your exhaust system at all, it's only an added protection. Don't worry about it.

Now, make sure you spray your motor down with WD-40 (or the equivalent) to provide a barrier from the moisture built up from humidity and spary your linkage well.

I use white lithium grease, that comes in a spray can to spray into my spark plug holes. This provides a protection barrier on the inside of my engine. I usually spray it in my carbs too, then withth plugs out, roll the engine over by hand to drop the other cylinder and spray again.

If you've used the bombardier spray, it's doing the same thing. Just twice the expense.............:cheers:

 

[revereamg]

question, how does the water get into the cylinders when you flush the motor without the engine running ?

 

[bigJake]

How to roll engine over by hand?

I use white lithium grease, that comes in a spray can to spray into my spark plug holes. This provides a protection barrier on the inside of my engine. I usually spray it in my carbs too, then withth plugs out, roll the engine over by hand to drop the other cylinder and spray again.

If you've used the bombardier spray, it's doing the same thing. Just twice the expense.............:cheers:

Snipe, can you please explain to us rookies how to roll the engine over by hand. Do you have to remove the cover from something to do this? Does spraying the lithium in the carbs stall out the engine much faster than the fogging oil, just wondering cause it's so much thicker?

I mentioned here last year that I just use a funnel and pour my antifreeze in thru the garden hose connector (with a short piece of garden hose connected and engine running) until it comes out the exhaust rather than disconnect all the cooling lines, wastes a little antifreeze but seems alot easier, any comments on that?
Thanks !!

 

[Ruff Cut]

simple anti-freeze...

I reallllly like your anti-freeze idea. Sounds much simpler. I hope to hear from others on it. If it's that simple it can't work. I live in Northern Nevada where freezeing is an issue. Even in the garage.
And how do ya crank it over by hand ?

 

[timmyboy76]

remove spark plugs, and grey shield from back of motor, then proceed to turn pto counterclockwise.

 

[bigJake]

re simple anitfreeze installation

well Ruff Cut, I'm not going to tell you what to do, but that's how I put my anitfreeze in last year (funnel to a section of hose and pour in a gallon with the engine running) and my ski's sit outside in northern PA where it gets pretty darn cold - although I think last winter was kind of mild. I winterized yesterday the same way. So I sure hope it works too The way I did it was fog the engine, then run for a minute to pour in the antifreeze, and then i fogged for another 30 seconds, then pulled the plugs and sprayed the cylinders. So you're done in like 10 minutes and don't have to mess with disconnecting any hoses. I don't pinch off any hoses, I just let it run out the exhaust.

I'd sure like to hear from the experts on this approach too but they may be hesitant to give their blessing on anything that deviates from the manual and I don't want to be responsible for others deciding to follow my approach and have their engine freeze.

On a slightly different topic, I winterized my boat myself for the first time. West Marine talked me into buying their winterizing kit ( a 5 gallon plastic jug with a tube attached that you connect to the earmuffs (for $34, sigh) - this is basically the same approach I use with my skis so if it works for the boat why not the skis ) anyway I ran the boat on the hose for 20 minutes and then ran the antifreeze thru. I then slightly opened each drain plug to get a sample of what came out - I got clear water from the engine block. Problem seemed to be the engine never got above 145 degrees and I checked my manual and the thermostat is 160 degrees, so i ended up doing it all over again without the kit. Once I located the 6 drain plugs on the mercruiser it really only took a few minutes longer than using the platic jug. of course now I was out of antifreeze and the nearest boat supply is 45 minutes away The RV stuff Walmart sells doesn't say it has corrosion protection so I was hesitatnt to use that. The stuff at Advanced Auto is the same RV stuff. Does anyone know for sure if this stuff can be used?

Moral of the story is if anyone is usign the "winterizing kit" on their boat, make sure the thermostat opens so you get anitfreeze in the block.

 

[Petron]

i have a 1999 gti with a 717. when i was putting antifereeze into the motor(thru the water exit hose), i pinched the engine drain hose (clear drain hose coming out of bottom of exhaust), but i forgot to pinch the engine water supply hose (on rear of motor, arrow points into engine).

the antifreeze went into the drain hose like the manual said it would.

But, did me forgetting to clamp the water supply hose let the water/antifreeze go somewhere it shouldn't ? (like the exhaust or the cylinders) Would it be ok to leave it like this for the winter or do i need to re-winterize it ?

Once you fill the engine block with antifreeze, do you have to un-pinch the hoses and let the antifreeze circulate by starting the engine briefly?

So the antifreeze sits in the engine all winter long? Does no harm?

 

[kustomkarl]

In the older 2 stroke engines, they don't have a thermostat. Be sure to use eco-friendly antifreeze and you won't have any problems come spring or with it squirting on the ground. You shouldn't run your seadoo ever on the hose for more than 5 minutes as the Jet Pump bearings and seals rely on the water it's in for cooling.

Karl