Grips for stock '96 XP

[scrisp]

I looked through several threads and got a bit confused as to who sells grips for my XP that will got right on with no trimming or customization. I saw some people using bicycle grips, some using ATV grips, but they all seemed like they needed modified to fit, or they fit with gaps in areas.

Does anyone have a direct fit supplier? I have the original black style on both Doos and they tear up my hands, plus they are getting "gooey". lol

Thanks,
Scott

 

[WhiskeyD]

I've been using ODI rogue grips, they are not too bad

 

[Jerry Stephenson]

I got some oem grips on Amazon they work great

 

[soccerdad]

+1 on the ODI rogue grips. But get 120mm ones. The grips have clamps to hold them on. Only the inside clamps will grab the bars, but they hold rock solid. Nice feel. Good for bigger hands.

 

[scrisp]

Thanks Guys, I'm going to grab a pair of these from Amazon.

 

[Spimothy Leary]

Odi rogues.
I ordered mine from oasis performance

 

[Krispy]

Caution, I run the ODO rogue on my ski with a stock throttle, however due to their extra thickness, on my 96xp with UMI billet throttle the lever touches the grip before the throttle plates open.

If you have a aftermarket throttle beware, the ODI's OD is too large


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[TurnerBFC]

If I recall, OSDParts sells OEM SeaDoo grips (assuming you like the OEM style).

 

[Rosie2514]

Caution, I run the ODO rogue on my ski with a stock throttle, however due to their extra thickness, on my 96xp with UMI billet throttle the lever touches the grip before the throttle plates open.

If you have a aftermarket throttle beware, the ODI's OD is too large


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So whats the work around on that lol?

 

[1983]

For now, grind out a small groove in front of grip where finger throttle hits grip. I am working on finding another solution. Mine goes WOT now but had to groove out front of grip. I have 3 different finger throttle brands to try out this season. UMI, KVPI, and the current blowsion.

 

[soccerdad]

[MENTION=72134]1983[/MENTION] - are you using ODI Rogue grips now? Is this the grip that you groved?

 

[1983]

Yes, using ODI Rogue grips ( wanted them cause i have huge hands, and the larger diameter of the grip the easier it is for hand fatigue when bouncing around lake ) with blowsion alum FT (finger throttle) I notched out front of grip towards inside where finger throttle pivots too. you could also alternatively grind back of finger grip arm, but grip is cheaper and easier to modify being rubber vs. aluminum if something happens. Didnt want to change strength of finger throttle either by grinding it.

I have researched this alot. Apparently UMI finger throttle that is "angle pull" is the closest to allowing WOT with not too much adjustment to cable or grip mod.


I have a couple UMI "straight pulls" and a KVPI i will be trying.

The issue me and [MENTION=62923]Krispy[/MENTION] have discussed and both run into is this: the toss up... you will either have WOT and high idle, or perfect correct idle, and no WOT. of course you want both so i spent some time adjusting 10mm nuts on threaded sleeve at carb adjustment bracket for cable, and nut for adjusting up at finger throttle. I have both WOT and idle now, but had to grind out 1/4" wide / about 1 " long area on my grip beneath where my index finger pulls the finger throttle back into grip. You could never really see it, and next one I will use a different method to grind out ( i used dremel and marked area where to grind ) while its on ski. I will mark it and remove it on next one for a cleaner cut area.

The other little item I added to my 96' xp is a throttle return spring setup. I will post pix in a second. The factory mikuni return springs are the ones on throttle shaft, over time they dont provide enough strength to return the throttle back after all this adjusting i did, sometimes i had a hunting idle. Unless the throttle shaft is pulled back to the idle screw stop every time, it will hunt for idle, and idle high. i engineered this little package to have it return to idle screw every time, and have a better feel on finger grip. kind of how an old beamer has a heavier gas pedal feel than an average vehicle.

You could always use a slimmer diameter bmx type grip too.

 

[1983]

Here are the pix. I went through about 20 springs literally lol, to find one that gave allowed throttle blades to open WOT, and return to idle, and not too hard to pull with operation while riding.


WOT:

IDLE:

 

[Rosie2514]

Good info 1983. I had searched night and day for anyone who could tell me if their finger throttle worked 100% on stock bars without much avail. Hopefully your right about the Angled UMI. That is the one i will post likely pick up in the near future. That is unless you find one to work better.

 

[1983]

I feel they all are going to require modification to get WOT
But angled UMI the least.

 

[racerxxx]

That throttle return spring is masking an underlying problem. The stock Mik springs are plenty strong enough to click back a throttle. If not you need to find out what the problem is. These are not carbs on cars, no extra return springs.

I have a GT Manufacturing finger throttle on my HX. It's smooth as silk and with stock gross I have zero issues. I know, you want pimp grips. Honestly my hands are big and a small diameter grip kills my hand where as the stock mushroom grips feel the most comfortable. Now, let's see who our bmx riders area that can remember mushroom grips.

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[1983]

I'll have to disagree. Been through this many times on a couple skis with aftermarket finger throttle applications. These old carbs springs that are on the butterfly shafts are tired. If you have the opportunity and carbs are off ski and serviceable you can put some additional turns on the factory bound return springs. But if you want a consistent idle and confident feel to your throttle then I would suggest making some adjustments or modifications. I'm not selling anything, just helping out and giving my experience with them.

Rob

That throttle return spring is masking an underlying problem. The stock Mik springs are plenty strong enough to click back a throttle. If not you need to find out what the problem is. These are not carbs on cars, no extra return springs.

I have a GT Manufacturing finger throttle on my HX. It's smooth as silk and with stock gross I have zero issues. I know, you want pimp grips. Honestly my hands are big and a small diameter grip kills my hand where as the stock mushroom grips feel the most comfortable. Now, let's see who our bmx riders area that can remember mushroom grips.

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[racerxxx]

If it works for you go with it, it's just not my bag. I've never had an issue with the wound springs and I would never over wrap a spring. I guess what I'm getting at is if you have no trigger connected the butterflies should snap back. If you hook up a trigger and it doesn't do the same something is off somewhere with the cable routing to the trigger or the pivot is too tight or something.

 

[1983]

Yup, it works for me. Springs and metal get tired over time. If I have a setup that works good ill leave it alone. But if it needs additional return I'll add it.

Im meticulous checking for throttle cable erosion, bind/resistance.

Rob

 

[Rosie2514]

:lurk: Dont mind me!

 

[1of500]

I had the same problem on my rxx come to find out the cable was bad there was a wire that uncoiled internally. It only would stick intermittently so took a loooong time to figure out but eventually it unraveled all the way to the end and I noticed it reinstalling the carbs.

 

[1983]

Take note of how thick the factory thumb throttle is. ( very thin )

That alone allows for more travel. Plus it's the way the factory designed it

 

[Matt Braley]

I don't use fat grips but I have used all the major brands and styles of finger throttles and always been able to get WOT. When I built my Big Red GSX I remembered how my finger and wrist get tired during races and long rides. I actually removed one of the carb's return springs for less throttle tension. I don't recommend it to others because if the linkage pops off one carb wouldn't self return.

When the stock throttle action becomes stiff it is usually a build up on the throttle shafts.

 

[soccerdad]

Hey Rob,
Can you post a picture of the groove you cut in the grip? I am getting ready to add a finger throttle and want to see what you are doing. I will post all my results once I get into it. Good to hear tha Matt did not have any issues. I wonder if other ODI grips are smaller diameter. I like the Rogues, but my hands are not huge so smaller ones would work as well.

 

[1983]

Sure I can get a pic at lunch today. I honestly would go with a smaller diameter grip if it doesn't bother your hands. Then you wont have as much of problem as i do with getting WOT. ODI does make a rogue patterned grip that is much smaller in diameter, it was for bicycles i believe. they accidentally sent me one regular and one smaller is how i found out about it.


My fav grip are ones that [MENTION=51350]Jetskigoodies[/MENTION] put on his XPL i believe. that resto ski, they were grey, and not ODI. they looked great with his color scheme. If i ever get my seat wrapped with this gray carbon vinyl i will switch grips out. let me dig for the post.