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96 Speedster - rookie troubleshooting workflow

lowspeedpursuit

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'96 Speedster, "ran when parked", been sitting 4-5yrs. Single-battery. Starboard engine (reman) had exhaust removed and PO abandoned project. Runs (poorly, for now) with new battery and new gas.
Port engine (possibly original) still won't start. Front cylinder looks like it's continually filling with oil, so crank seal? Which is an engine-out project.
So I have a few questions that are going to make me sound like an idiot, because I know small engines, but not boats:

1: Obviously I can't just drop it in the water with it running poorly. How do I tune an engine everybody says you can only leave running on the hose for 30 seconds? If I unhook the jet drive, is it then safe to leave an engine running on the hose for longer? Indefinitely?

2: Assuming I get starboard running well, can I do a shakedown run with one engine, compensating for steering? Or is that a total non-starter?

3: Should I even be trying to get the port engine started with an oil leak? In other words, is it safe in the short-term to get this engine running and cut the oil off when not in use, or should I not even be trying to get it running without pulling it to fix the leak first?

4: My key is trashed. What is the simplest way to minimize DESS going forward? Can I tune it out? Is there a resource to find other users with a tuner near me, or does somebody actively offer mail-in? EDIT: The closest legit dealer is kind of far, and also wants $200, and to keep my whole boat for 1-2 weeks until they get around to programming a key.

TIA.

EDIT: While I'm here, please tell me someone has a better strategy for how to seat the new check-valve grommets in the carbs? Conventional wisdom seems to be "apply even pressure and move it around, but don't push too hard".... I just blew through all 4 I have, and only one of them was even remotely close to going in. Dental floss shreds instantly. This is ridiculous.
 
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1. I find there’s not much tuning to do, I’ve always rebuilt the carbs with back to OEM kits from OSD, then set the high and low speed screws to factory settings and I was good to go, I say always lol, but I mean twice, in my HX and my XP, I did however have to take the air box off a second time to adjust the idle screw in the XP, but that was it, apparently it can be done with the air box on, but I was finding it very aggravating. You are correct, if you remove the driveshaft you can run the engine on land for longer but I wouldn’t recommend doing that as I’ve always heard to tune them on the water as they react differently while under load.
2. I wouldn’t drive it on one engine as the non running engine will get flooded from water pressure up through the exhaust ports. There is a procedure in the manual where you pinch off a hose for towing, probably the supply hose, but check the manual if you do decide to drive with one engine running.
3. Yes it’s worth getting the non engine running even with the inner seal leaking, you may not even need a shut off valve depending on how long it sat for the oil to leak in, if it was a year or more, it may not even noticeably leak during the season. Every spring I take the spark plugs out, ground the plug wires and crank it over just in case it has leaked over the winter. Not a drop out of my XP this spring and it has leaked past before, I guess it’s healing itself.
4. The only way to eliminate DESS that I’m aware of is using an aftermarket MPEM and I couldn’t recommend that, to many stories of them not working out of the box. There are people that you can send your MPEM to. The only one that comes to mind is west side Powersports.
As for the check valves, I used dental floss wrapped around the Nikole of the grommet, a little 2 stroke oil on the grommet and a small pocket to gently help it through. I have since purchased the tool from OSD but haven’t used it yet. A lot will say an Allen key but I had no luck with it. Might be handy to have another set of hands around while you’re doing it. I would also check out the carb rebuild thread in this site as there is some bad information on the internet like bending the lever to obtain pop off.
 
Appreciate the very detailed response.

Looks like I'll end up needing to at least clean the carbs on the reman, which I was hoping to avoid for now if possible.

I'll keep working on the port engine. Carbs are bone dry even after cranking, so they'll be getting a full rebuild and backfilled with gas. Now that I think of it, do you know the approx level (gal.) at which you need to switch over to the reserve fuel pickup?
Unfortunately new grommets will take another week to get here. I was also using a 2mm ball-end allen key like in the carb rebuild sticky, and I was amazed by how little force pierced through the rubber. I've ordered the "real" tool now as well.

I guess when the grommets show up I'll give the floss another crack without a tool in the hole at all, so at least there's no chance I'll break it again.

I shot Westside an email to confirm they can't do DESS deletes. $100 + shipping for a new key (and I don't have to move the boat) is better than the dealer, at least. If your MPEM gets lost in the mail your boat is a brick, though.
I'm sure somebody has already experimented with lashing the original key near the post? Is it possible to get it close enough on the back side to read the chip, at which point you can just use a virgin key on the post? That's generally been the done thing to bypass PATS/SKIM in '90s vehicles.

Thanks again!
 
Appreciate the very detailed response.

Looks like I'll end up needing to at least clean the carbs on the reman, which I was hoping to avoid for now if possible.

I'll keep working on the port engine. Carbs are bone dry even after cranking, so they'll be getting a full rebuild and backfilled with gas. Now that I think of it, do you know the approx level (gal.) at which you need to switch over to the reserve fuel pickup?
Unfortunately new grommets will take another week to get here. I was also using a 2mm ball-end allen key like in the carb rebuild sticky, and I was amazed by how little force pierced through the rubber. I've ordered the "real" tool now as well.

I guess when the grommets show up I'll give the floss another crack without a tool in the hole at all, so at least there's no chance I'll break it again.

I shot Westside an email to confirm they can't do DESS deletes. $100 + shipping for a new key (and I don't have to move the boat) is better than the dealer, at least. If your MPEM gets lost in the mail your boat is a brick, though.
I'm sure somebody has already experimented with lashing the original key near the post? Is it possible to get it close enough on the back side to read the chip, at which point you can just use a virgin key on the post? That's generally been the done thing to bypass PATS/SKIM in '90s vehicles.

Thanks again!
Hey your very welcome, it would be worth looking through some Seadoo groups on should I dare say it? Facebook, if you use the search bar you may find someone doing it for less. I should take notes when I come across them. I found the same, that it was very easy to punch through them. Not sure if I mentioned it but when using the floss, I didn’t tie the floss, just wrapped it around a few times and then held it from unraveling while pulling it through, I did it myself but like I said an extra set of hands would be helpful and I did use the pic to gently pry them through the rest of the way. Let me know how the tool works for them
 
Southern DE. Closest dealer is Short's Marine/Price Premier, then Delmarva Powersports.

EDIT: I wasn't expecting someone to get back to me right away. "Nick" from Westside just quoted me $160 (+ shipping/insurance) for a DESS delete. For still a bit less than the dealer wants for a key to never worry about it again, that seems like the move.
 
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Additional questions, as they arise, for anyone who may know:

What are we doing for tachs? This boat has one, the other is MIA. Not sure if it failed, got yanked during the reman install, or what. Curiously, I have the right tach, which appears to be hooked to the left engine?

I see one on ebay for $200, and exactly nothing else anywhere at all. I do see this thread where we establish '96 GTX tachs are double the size, someone asks if a similar-looking '95 XP tach will work and gets no responses.

Is there a reason to buy the original other than aesthetics? Does anyone know anything else that will work electrically but require creative mounting?
Also considering just throwing an SPDT between the two engines to the one tach I have.

EDIT: Per wiring diagrams and this discussion, while '97+ are right out, I don't see why the '95 tach shouldn't work? They're certainly more readily available on ebay.
 
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