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mattydipps

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the dealer when i bought my ski said to run the 87 octane in my ski.. ive ran it in it ever sense..

looking at seadoo.com, some 215 engine specs say premium gasoline.. some say regular octane.. what should i be using?

is there a noticeable difference between the two performance wise?
 
Premium!!! With 87 octane you are relying on the knock sensors to dial back timing when detonation occurs. And with 87 under full boost you are detonating!!! If a sensor fails you will most likely shatter a piston and cause catastrophic damage. Just use premium.
 
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Yeah...I use 93 Sunoco premium almost exclusively....they do sell a 89 w/o ethanol...I like that for extended storage. I have used regular when it was all I could get...like on the water....but usually there was some premium left in the tank to kick it up a bit.
 
The law of diminishing returns definitely applies, use the fuel specified in your owners manual so you can be confident to obtain best performance and your engine won't be damaged by detonation. The engine was carefully designed to perform under certain conditions and the margin of error can be too thin if the fuel is sub-par. I've seen many engines ruined due to the wrong, or stale fuel.
 
ahhh see this is all confusing a little bit.. my owners manual says regular fuel...but the rxt.. same year.. same motor.. basically the same ski just the gtx has a couple upgrades electronically, says premium fuel.

do i continue adding regular fuel or switch to premium?
 
Engines are expensive, would it really cost that much more to run premium? Premium will give you a wider margin of safety against detonation, which will quickly eat your pistons if it happens. I've seen my fair share of two-strokes with scored cylinders because of stale low quality fuel, probably wouldn't have happened if the fuel was premium, even if it was a bit stale, but low octane and stale simultaneously was enought to increase combustion temperature enough to consume the lubricating oil before it could lubricate the rings and cylinder walls. This is only an example, of course your ski isn't two stroke, and it has a detonation sensor that will detect and retard the ignition automatically, but there are always limits. Can you discern detonation yourself, and back off the throttle if it does happen? I think you cannot, and if you could it might be too late to avoid damage. Do you ride your ski hard or store it for long periods, stale fuel loses octane.

Check the specs closer, does your ski really have the same engine? Is the top speed and horsepower spec the same? If so, that's a good case to support using premium. If your engine is the detuned version, then perhaps your owners manual and dealer are correct.
 
Is there any harm in adding octane boost to the 100% 87 octane?

No not really but it doesn't make any sense financially. It would be cheaper to use premium than 87 and octane booster. Only way i'd do that is if I had no access to premium.
 
No not really but it doesn't make any sense financially. It would be cheaper to use premium than 87 and octane booster. Only way i'd do that is if I had no access to premium.

Okayyyy premium it is.. Any problem with filling my half filled 87 tank with premium? I have a nice ride day coming up Saturday and I don't want to fill up on the water it'll cost nearly 30 bucks more
 
No problem. It should bring up the octane a few numbers and help with performance.
 
"Any problem with filling my half filled 87 tank with premium?"

That's exactly what I'd do, mixing them can only increase the octane. Unless the fuel in there is stale and has already turned into skunk urine.

I've drained plenty of skunk urine out of skis with blown motors. Did the motor blow before the fuel went stale, or was stale fuel the cause? Most often it was the cause, the owner parks his ski for two years while in Europe then comes home and plops it in the water and about 30 minutes later he's getting towed.

Yes, you can mix the premium with regular, and the octane will increase as a result. If you're really worried and think you're having a problem with the old fuel then siphon that regular skunk urine out of the ski tank into a gas can and start with good fresh premium urine.
 
Is there any harm in adding octane boost to the 100% 87 octane?

Honestly, if you could buy 4-8 oz of anything that could truly boost your octane 3-6 points, it would cost an arm and a leg and be dangerous to handle. The owner's manual is written with the average user in mind but if you want the extra peace of mind, buy the premium.
 
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