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Seadoo XP not running correctly

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DylanS

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Hi there. My 93 XP was running awesome and then the next time I went to the lake I couldn't get it above 4000 rpm. Lots of blue smoke and I could here it hiccup once and awhile. I immediately thought it was a carb problem but out of the water when it's started for a short period the rpms go well above 8000. What could this be?

Thanks.
 
It’s crazy I’m seeing a lot of people complain about same issue.. just had same problem it was my Carbon Seal/Bellow on drive shaft.. the carbon seal goes bad and bellow slips causing air and water to come in and low the throttle response
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Hmm I thought about that. But last fall I put a new carbon seal in because it was seized and spun inside the rubber .
 
Did you test the Rectifier?

Take a meter on your positive and negative terminals on battery and start Jetski if it’s over 15v it’s the rectifier.

You can also take it to the lake and unplug rectifier and ride like that if it doesn’t have that issue it’s the rectifier but don’t ride long because your battery won’t be charging so you will break down
 
No problem if you use a meter get the clips that you can clip onto meter and clip to battery so you don’t have to physically hold the meter sticks on the terminals
 
Hi there. My 93 XP was running awesome and then the next time I went to the lake I couldn't get it above 4000 rpm. Lots of blue smoke and I could here it hiccup once and awhile. I immediately thought it was a carb problem but out of the water when it's started for a short period the rpms go well above 8000. What could this be?

Thanks.
Hard to believe your RPM's could get over the built-in REV Limiter. The rev limiter is internally set to 7,050 rpms +/- 50....so hitting 8000 rpms is WAY over the limit. Usually, when an engine runs at HIGH rpms, it is in a runaway condition....uncontrolled air being sucked into the engine....does the engine run at high rpms with NO throttle usage???

Blue smoke is usually indicative of an engine burning excessive amounts of OIL.....not a carbon seal. Was the smoke pouring out of the ski from under the seat?

So, IMHO...you might have blown a ring on the piston or grenaded the engine and you are burning crankcase oil.....that engine needs to be gone through.....I'd stop trying to start/ride it in this condition.
 
Agree it's not the carbon ring (although if you've been revving it out of water for long at all, you may need a new one). The carbon ring only gets cooled in the water, so high revs out of water will quickly overheat and damage it. Avoid revving for more than a couple seconds out of water, and limit out of water operation as much as possible if you have a carbon ring.

A failed carbon ring won't cause blue smoke. When the carbon ring fails, you get air into the water stream, exactly as tjones823 said, and the symptom is a loss of acceleration power. However, you will get high RPM's when this occurs--the air causes cavitation, which makes it *easier* for the engine to spin the pump. So high RPM accompanied by a loss of acceleration is a carbon ring or jet pump issue, whereas you said you were getting low RPM with a loss of acceleration, which is an engine/fuel system issue.

I'd also recommend checking the rectifier, although that doesn't explain the blue smoke. Here's a good video, even though you don't have a 787.

I agree that if you're getting blue smoke, something's may have gone wrong with the engine. Check compression and start looking at your engine.

Also, just because a sea-doo runs fine out of water doesn't mean you don't have a carb problem or something else with engine performance. It takes a *lot* less torque to run out of water than in. For instance, my 96 GTX is currently not revving above 2500 RPM in water, but easily hits 5500+ (haven't tried to go higher) out of water. I believe the rectifier has failed in mine. So only in-water tests really apply when checking engine performance.
 
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So, IMHO...you might have blown a ring on the piston or grenaded the engine and you are burning crankcase oil.....that engine needs to be gone through.....I'd stop trying to start/ride it in this condition.

Does a 2 cycle engine have crankcase oil? I thought it didn't...
 
Does a 2 cycle engine have crankcase oil? I thought it didn't...
NOT ALL 2 stroke engines have crankcase oil....but Yes, the bottom of the Seadoo engine sits in an oil bath. There are larger oil lines that connect to the engine case from the oil tank (that are pretty much impossible to reach without pulling the engine, so that is why it is such a PITA if those lines ever leak.)
 
Thanks for all the idea guys. I just had the carbs off and cleaned them, put new fuel lines in and made sure the fuel selector was working. Tested the rectifier out of water, maybe it needs to be tested in water I don't no but it didn't test over 15v. Took it to the lake and wouldn't start in water, so I started it on the trailer then pushed it into water, it would only idle in the water any push of the throttle would kill it. No blue smoke this time...
 
Going to test compression today. Didn't rebuild carbs just cleaned them as parts looked ok.

Just because the parts look OK doesn't mean that they are. They could be, or they could be cheap aftermarket parts that will never work right. The exact tension and flexibility of the parts matters.

You have to use Genuine Mikuni parts, it has to be tested and verified with a popoff tester, and everything has to be clean. You've only done 1/3 of that...

If you don't know when they were rebuilt, and if you don't know that genuine parts were used, we strongly recommend you rebuild the carb. If not, and you run the engine lean, you could seize it, which is a lot more expensive than a carb rebuild kit.
 
Just because the parts look OK doesn't mean that they are. They could be, or they could be cheap aftermarket parts that will never work right. The exact tension and flexibility of the parts matters.

You have to use Genuine Mikuni parts, it has to be tested and verified with a popoff tester, and everything has to be clean. You've only done 1/3 of that...

If you don't know when they were rebuilt, and if you don't know that genuine parts were used, we strongly recommend you rebuild the carb. If not, and you run the engine lean, you could seize it, which is a lot more expensive than a carb rebuild kit.
Is this what I need? Mikuni SBN Carburetor - Topmarine
 
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