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Borderman

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Need a little help folks.
What I have is a 1999 GSX limited. Carb’s are BN 46i. When my son first got the ski
it had been in storage for 5 yr. It had been oil down and fuel removed from tank. We looked it over good , put gas in it and fired it up for about 10-15 seconds. I said ok lets go to the lake a see if run’s on the water. It started up and would idle ok but bog and die if you give it gas. After 2-3 try’s I told him to work the choke at the same time. Finally it got up on plane and really took off. That little rascal looked really fast on the straightaway. After 2 laps he came back
in and said it was surging. Also getting hard to restart so I said put on the trailer and go back to the shop. Something’s not right.
Now today. I have replaced the gray hose. Cleaned and put in new carb kits. Everything cleaned up good, all fuel passages clear, new needle and seat, diaphragms and ck valves in fuel pump. Bought tester for pressure test. Pop-out was 22-23 psi on both carb’s. 10 psi leak test on needle and seat ok.

So, here is the problem, almost no fuel pressure at cranking speed. Won’t start.
We can start it with squirt bottle in pto carb and it will run if you keep the rpm up 3-4000. I was very surprised at this problem. Everything went so well going back together.

Side bar: I really don’t understand this fuel pump. It has 1 fuel inlet and a fuel return back to
the tank. Return line is block by diaphragm so it’s not doing anything. There’s no pulse inlet.
So how dose it get it’s pumping action?
Well I have said enough. Sure hope someone can help me out here..
 
Sounds like you have the hoses on wrong.

The pulse line is on the outer cover. (back side of the pump diaphragm) That gets hooked to the engine case. On the second (PTO) carb... there is no pump. The MAG carb has the pump in it, and feeds both carbs.
 
Thanks for getting back Dr. I know it sound’s craze but this unit has no pulse line. The first
thing I did was trace all the lines and made a drawing. Then I put them on one at a time.
I’m 100% sure of no mix up. Maybe this is a first design or something sea-doo was trying
out. And remember we did get to run on the water that very first time out.. I’m going to pull
carb’s back off this morning and re-ck the pump. Maybe one of the small disc came out.
I’ll let you know how it comes out.
Thinks again.
 
Dr. Honda.
I may have to back up on this problem. Got the cars off and the pump was ok. What you said
got me think about the hose. I know I put all back how they came off. The hoses that went to the
fuel pump I’m in question. This ski was worked on in San Angelo, TX in 2006 and was not run
until we got it and put it on the water. I think I may have just copied somebody’s mistake.
Have to take grand kids swimming now. Will get back later.
Thank you very much.
 
Dr.Honda
I been thinking about this all day. Here’s my question, there is a fitting and hose
about 1-2 inch under the pto carb. Is this a pulse hose on the 947?
If it is then I have been getting the pulse hose and fuel return backwards.

I have to say up front that it’s my mistake. Damn that hurt. That what happens when you get your mine set one way and refuse to look at the obvious. You would think after 69 yr’s I would
learn better.
My next question is, how dose this oil system work? I know it has an oil pump, but I guess
it dose not mix oil with fuel like an outboard. There’s no hose hook up.
Going to put carbs back on in the morning.
Thanks
 
Dr Honda
Put ski in water this morning. It start’s good, idle’s good, but as you come out of the hole
on normal throttle at about 30 % throttle it bogs and dies. Starts right back up.
If you pull choke only about 1/8 to 1/4 out it will rpm up and take off.
After it gets on plane it run good wide open. Throttle response form 4000 to wide open good.
Sharp and clean acceleration. Rpm’s 6900. Not sure what that should be?
The high speed jets are at 0 in. Do you think a 1/4 turn out might help? We are at that
mid-range transfer I think from low speed to ½ throttle.
I would appreciate any ideas you may have on this problem.
Thank You.
 
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