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97Seadoo gtx no spark no beep

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Braduh60

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Not much else to tell. Battery fully charged. Cranks over fine. No beeps no spark. The white wire in the after box illuminates test light when cranking. The safety lanyard cap is new and programmed but it I still have to wiggle sometimes to get it to crank. The coil ohms check was with specs. I was having problems trying to check the trigger coil and stator with my multimeters probes. Not sure what to do. Not sure how to search similar issues posted on this forum. The shop manual is not helping me much. Not sure if I begin with the no beeps or no spark?. I would appreciate anything that will get going in the right direction
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Trigger pick up could be dirty inside the mag housing. It won't fire with a dirty pick up or it will fire intermittently. Are you checking with a spark tester that you plug into the spark plug? I like those best. Could be your CDI. This is what was wrong with mine. I cleaned it up and it worked fine. Do the Ohm Meter tests on the CDI box. That might help but they are finicky. I had two that read close to the same on all readings but only one would run the ski. Check your grounds. There is one close to the Mag plug I believe. Clean up the metal and connector. Those things are sneaky. :) Good Luck!


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Thanks Gene
I will check the CDI then remove the mag. When I attached test light to coil white it did come on during cranking. Still wondering about the absence of the two beeps
Brad
 
I put the ski on a trickle charger to plus up the battery for a couple of days. Just read that this could cause CDI damage. Is this true?
 
No, as long as you use something like a smart Battery Tender you will be fine.

The big no no that will damage the MPEM is jumpstarting the skis especially with a big old shop charger with the boost function.

To be totally safe it is better to disconnect the battery when charging.
 
Yep don't let the lack of a beep throw ya. Gotta get that thing working though so you'll have a hi temp alarm.
 
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Not much else to tell. Battery fully charged. Cranks over fine. No beeps no spark. The white wire in the after box illuminates test light when cranking. The safety lanyard cap is new and programmed but it I still have to wiggle sometimes to get it to crank. The coil ohms check was with specs. I was having problems trying to check the trigger coil and stator with my multimeters probes. Not sure what to do. Not sure how to search similar issues posted on this forum. The shop manual is not helping me much. Not sure if I begin with the no beeps or no spark?. I would appreciate anything that will get going in the right direction
Thanks

Couple things I would do to narrow it down, test the beeper by jumping 12 volts to it, you may need a new one, they typically eventually fail. Both of my skis they needed to be replaced, the one on my 97' GTX was dead, the one on my 96' GSX was intermittent.

There's a procedure outlined in the SM to test the DESS post for continuity with a DM. Possibly it can be bad, but I've found the connection at the male/female plug going to the MPEM can cause an intermittent issue. I had this on my 96' GSX. I had to mess with pins in the plugs to fix it. Test from the DESS post through the connector to MPEM barrel connectors to see if you have an intermittent issue.

Sounds like you're getting spark, I didn't see anything in your original post about the carbs or fuel system. Have you verified fuel delivery? If you haven't already may need to put some attention in this area, rebuild carbs, etc, may be your issue why it won't start.
 
Hi Brad,

I had the very similar symptoms with a 97 GTX I picked up last year.

No beep was caused by a dead buzzer, tapped the little metal diaphragm inside the beeper with a small screw driver and it would work for a couple seconds then dead again, just ended up replacing it. Works great now.

You will need to get a spark plug tester to doubly confirm you are NOT getting spark, even when everything is working, the spark is difficult to see using a spark plug if you are in full daylight. Be sure the plugs are grounded well to the engine, just leaving them lying on top of the cylinder head might provide a solid ground.

My issue was that the magneto bolts had sheered off and the magneto had stuck to the stator, so the mag would not turn with the crankshaft, so no pulse to pickup coil, no spark. In my case though, the white wire that runs to the back electrical box was not showing any voltage when cranking. In your case you are seeing voltage on the white wire, which drives the primary coil in the ignition coil.

You stated that you checked the coil, primary and secondary for resistance. If you left the boots on the plug wires you will need to add about 5K for each boot, or unscrew/remove them first to check the secondary. Wiggle the secondary wires while you measure the resistance and see if the meter jumps around. While you have the boots off, snip a few mm of wire from the ends of the boots before you screw them back on.

If you want to check the stator and pickup coil, I found it easiest to trace the wires back to the MPEM box in the front, open the box carefully, disconnect them from the MPEM and measure the resistance there. Again, since you are getting a pulse on the white wire, that would seem to indicate that the pickup coil is sending a signal to the MPEM, which in turn drives the white wire to the coil.

I recall reading that the secondary of the coil could check out OK but in use may not function correctly, it is a pretty inexpensive part (coil, wires, boots) to replace, you could try that, and always have a spare if that is not the issue.

As mentioned in prior posts, there are a few other things to check if it is not starting, you may be getting spark but no fuel, and or insufficient compression in the cylinders. You can take the plugs out, put 50ml of fuel/oil in each cylinder, replace the plugs and crank it to see if may be a fuel delivery issue.

Good luck!
 
Thanks for all the inputs. I work 7 on 7 off 12hr shifts flying for a hospital. I will starting doing checks in a couple of days
 
No spark during the day seems to be the issue. Just took off ma cover trigger coil and stator. Resistance checks were within specs. I also did resistance check of the coil which also checked good. I put a test light on the white wire to the coil and light illuminated when cranking. During the day I put at spark tester on each spark plug wire and could not see spark.

So tonight I checked for spark and I was getting a weak orange glow from each plug wire. Now I am thinking either stator or coil
 
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