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97 GTX 787 Carb Cleaning question

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prd

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Hey guys,

Can I clean a carb without buying a rebuild kit?

Since the ski doesnt want to start, and gaz doesnt seem to be making it to the motor, I'm pretty sure its related to the carb. I have 0 experience with carbs or cleaning them, and I dont want to break anything, but before starting the job of changing the fuel lines and carb cleaning I'm gathering some information.

Thanks
 
I'm asking because I live in canada, and I don't know where to get the rebuild kit for a gtx 97 locally and I'd like to do it today or tomorrow. IF I remove everything properly, will I be able to use the same parts? Is there parts that I should be more careful with?

Thanks
 
Yes you can Clean the carbs without a Rebuild Kit. Just be careful no to mess up any of the Gaskets. Also do spray Carb cleaner on any of the Rubber Gaskets.

Youtube has lots of How to Videos on this.
 
You say to spray carb cleaner on any rubber gaskets.. dont you mean.. do NOT? Doesn't carb cleaner damage those?
 
The carb base gaskets where they mount to engine will probably flake away from age, so cut your own our of gasket material or find some.

Rob
 
If gas isn't getting to the engine, there is a good chance that the needles and seats are stuck together due to dried up gasoline. Been there, done that! They may feel like they're glued together. Once you get them apart, spray lots of carb cleaner on those parts and make sure the needle doesn't have a circular groove worn into it where it seals on the seat. If it's got a groove, depending on how bad it is, it'll leak and give you problems.

Just be careful when taking the carbs apart and you can probably reuse most if not all of the soft parts. Since you'll have the carbs apart, you might as well give both carbs a thorough cleaning. This will involve paying special attention to the low speed ports that are fed by the pilot jet. Pay particular attention to the three microscopic low speed ports that you'll be able to see in the barrel of the carb. The best way to clean them, in my opinion, is to leave the pilot jet in place and stick the carb cleaner can's straw into the pilot jet. Hold the throttle lever open and spray away. Looking into the barrel of the carb, you should see carb cleaner shooting out of the three microscopic holes. (Protect your eyes!) It'll also be shooting out of the much larger hole off to the side. Shoot compressed air through the jet and passages and then repeat with carb cleaner/compressed air until you're sure that the passages are clear and clean. Your ski will not run right without these passages clear and clean!

You'll need to have the low speed needle in place before shooting carb cleaner through those low speed ports. Remove, clean and inspect the needle before reinstalling, then do what I described in the last paragraph.
 
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The needle and seat is a possibility but before the fuel gets to that part of the circuit it has the go through the filter on the mag side of the carb. Its easy to get to and if it has junk in it you've most likely found your smoking gun. This is a very likely cause if you have the old grey fuel lines or have gotten some crappy fuel. While the carbs are off the machine you can take the pto side apart and get to your needle and seat. If your needle has a rubber tip and you've been using fuel with ethanol this tip can deteriorate so give it a look. While your in that side of the carb there are two Philips head screws holding on a kidney shaped block. Remove that block and youll see your high and low speed jets. The red tube from your carb cleaner will usually fit it the small low speed jet, its a snug fit but that's good. wear some glasses when looking into the carb and at the 3 tiny holes spray the carb cleaner, it should spray out with little problem. Also carb cleaner should be comeing out of a 4th larger hole, that is actually your low speed jet. The three little holes are your transition jets. when you spray into the larger jet from inside the carb you should see the cleaner flow out of the high speed jets in the smaller venturie of the carb tunnel.

If your still running grey lines at least remove them from the carb and get some good quality fuel line and use stainless clamps. be carefull wih the old factory clamps when your remove, use a good pair of cutters. If you go trying to twist and such I have seen a fuel nipple break off before. Since its end of season at least cut back a couple feet of your old grey supply line from the bottom of the mag side of your forward carb. Install an inline fuel filter so your not filling those tiny filters in the carbs full of junk again. Use your off season to replace the rest of those grey lines.
 
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