Probably easier and more cost efficient to keep an eye out in your local market for someone parting out a boat
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96 Speedster - rookie troubleshooting workflow
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lowspeedpursuit
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The thought had crossed my mind, but I live in kind of a weird spot. It's a peninsula that's suddenly become extremely rich over the past decade, so there's a lot less DIY community, everything for sale nearby carries a huge premium, and radius-based marketplace filters aren't smart enough not to try and send me directly across the bay on what's actually a 4hr one-way trip.
There's a partout listed in exactly such a location, actually, for an '04 Speedster. I'm having trouble figuring out if later access covers are "close enough" to fab into one of mine, but it doesn't seem worth the trip.
I also don't think I ever mentioned this part, but this was more-or-less a $300 boat. Repairs ($30 tach, 7x$50 carb rebuilds + needle seats + wear rings, $220 impeller) have been another $600. If the going rate for these things is $2-350 (ebay), that feels pretty wasteful. Same beef I have with the traction mat kits I see at $3-400.
Anyway, everyone knows boats aren't for poor people, more at 5.
There's a partout listed in exactly such a location, actually, for an '04 Speedster. I'm having trouble figuring out if later access covers are "close enough" to fab into one of mine, but it doesn't seem worth the trip.
I also don't think I ever mentioned this part, but this was more-or-less a $300 boat. Repairs ($30 tach, 7x$50 carb rebuilds + needle seats + wear rings, $220 impeller) have been another $600. If the going rate for these things is $2-350 (ebay), that feels pretty wasteful. Same beef I have with the traction mat kits I see at $3-400.
Anyway, everyone knows boats aren't for poor people, more at 5.
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Ebay is always overpriced, if I’m selling something or buying I consider it to be worth roughly half of the average ebay price. I always shake my head when a post will come up with someone asking what is this worth. Last one I remember was a pretty minty 1997 GSX on FB group that was for sale for 1500.00 with a trailer. Lots of answers like I just sold mine for 500.00. and it’s worth 800.00 tops, meanwhile they just bought one for 600.00 with no trailer that needs everything, sitting outside its whole life, sink 600.00 in parts and countless hours into it, but no way is a garage kept machine with low hours worth 1500.09 lol.
lowspeedpursuit
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Oh, absolutely, it goes both ways. Sellers want a million dollars for their stuff, but simultaneously buyers want to pay $3.50 instead of what stuff is actually worth.
I'm getting the impression boats have the same problem as motorcycles in being a lot less fabrication-friendly than cars and trucks. There's always some piece of plastic you've got to have, only the dealer ever sold it, and there's not really such a thing as the junkyard.
Without economies of scale, it goes like you're saying: buying all the parts a shitbox needs to be complete will run you more than it would just have cost to start with something nicer.
But, sometimes your budget is what it is, and if you want to play, you've just gotta do the best you can.
I'm getting the impression boats have the same problem as motorcycles in being a lot less fabrication-friendly than cars and trucks. There's always some piece of plastic you've got to have, only the dealer ever sold it, and there's not really such a thing as the junkyard.
Without economies of scale, it goes like you're saying: buying all the parts a shitbox needs to be complete will run you more than it would just have cost to start with something nicer.
But, sometimes your budget is what it is, and if you want to play, you've just gotta do the best you can.
lowspeedpursuit
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I have a tentative plan for the access cover, but before that, starboard carbs are resisting achieving correct pop-off.
Manual spec is 40-56. Port, one carb with new parts came out at 48, and the other was high until I used one of the old levers to match.
Updating this post as I keep screwing with it and get more info:
Starboard MAG with all-new parts popped at 60+. Old levers were even higher. Bending the lever up to get 55 makes it contact the diaphragm and not hold pressure. But, the old needle pops at 56 with a flat lever. Short spring from the kit pops <40 (same as the port carbs), so that won't work.
Starboard PTO is off-the-charts high and won't pop at all with any combination of parts and the spring that's in there. The short spring and the old lever from the MAG carb (bent very slightly down) pops at 56.
So that matches, and is barely in-spec, but involves using two different springs.
It looks like stock part #270500267 is supposed to be 80g?, and based on
I'm looking at 95g in here right now. So that could explain why pop-off is higher than port (except IIRC my port springs were also silver and intermediate-length), but I have zero idea why all else being equal, PTO is so much higher than MAG.
Thoughts?
Manual spec is 40-56. Port, one carb with new parts came out at 48, and the other was high until I used one of the old levers to match.
Updating this post as I keep screwing with it and get more info:
Starboard MAG with all-new parts popped at 60+. Old levers were even higher. Bending the lever up to get 55 makes it contact the diaphragm and not hold pressure. But, the old needle pops at 56 with a flat lever. Short spring from the kit pops <40 (same as the port carbs), so that won't work.
Starboard PTO is off-the-charts high and won't pop at all with any combination of parts and the spring that's in there. The short spring and the old lever from the MAG carb (bent very slightly down) pops at 56.
So that matches, and is barely in-spec, but involves using two different springs.
It looks like stock part #270500267 is supposed to be 80g?, and based on
I'm looking at 95g in here right now. So that could explain why pop-off is higher than port (except IIRC my port springs were also silver and intermediate-length), but I have zero idea why all else being equal, PTO is so much higher than MAG.
Thoughts?
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