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Life expectancy of a carbon seal

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How long do these typically last and how do you know when you need to replace it? Any specific symptoms? Reason why I ask is because I have a good impeller/ wear ring and just installed a Top Loader grate, and now I'm getting some cavitation out if the hole. Maybe on the rev limiter twice then blasts out.
 
what kinda r's are you turning? check to see if the nosecone is still on the prop and not riding up the shaft.
 
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Still running just shy of 8200. I'm taking the pump off tomorrow when I have some free time to check the wear ring better. I'll look at the nose cone. I may have put that on a little loose last time. It would make sense
 
I think it is more of an issue of the life expectancy of the rubber bellows more than the carbon ring itself. From what I understand the rubber bellows essentially act as a spring seal that compresses the carbon seal tight against the stainless steel clip. Over time, the rubber bellows gets weak and looses its elasticity (as all rubber does) and it cannot compress the carbon ring and stainless steel clip as tight as it should be; therefore you now get air intrusion under heavy acceleration and cavitation.

I have heard that a good test for a carbon ring problem is to put a few plastic wire ties around the bellows to compress it and create a tighter seal between the carbon ring and stainless clip. You can also glob some Vaseline around the seal of the carbon ring and stainless clip. It will temporarily plug any air gap that might be causing your cavitation. After performing these temporary tricks, if your cavitation is gone then you need to replace your drive shaft seals.

I have also heard that the drive shaft must be perfectly aligned, as any misalignment will cause the wear ring to wear unevenly causing air gaps and cavitation eventually.
 
Thanks for those tips and you are correct about the misalignment. However, when that is the case you notice it right away. My friend did a motor swap on his old GSX and as soon as he fired it up being misaligned it tore up the wear ring and cavitation like all hell.
 
well what could be causing my cavitation I wonder? :facepalm: thats what i get for installing a white wear ring and sucking up a small rock :banghead:. Impeller is spotless so I lucked out.

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Any truth to the white wear rings being inferior? If so what's the best one to get?
 
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